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11-18-2021 | 07:28 PM
#771
In a land of unicorns
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From: Whale FO
Atlas. My first month off OE guarantees approx 17k on year 1 pay (my line guarantee is just over 145 hours). It would be 19k on year 2 pay. Not every month will be that productive, but 180k on year 2 pay is doable for now. With covid going away, this will likely be lower in the future.
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11-18-2021 | 07:38 PM
#772
In a land of unicorns
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From: Whale FO
11-18-2021 | 09:00 PM
#775
In a land of unicorns
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From: Whale FO
Atlas numbers, if a 6 year FO would have got the same line I did as a junior guy, his bid line guarantee would be $25,300 for the month.
A 12 year CA would make $43,100.
Obviously this is just one month so I wouldn't extrapolate it too much.
A 12 year CA would make $43,100.
Obviously this is just one month so I wouldn't extrapolate it too much.
11-19-2021 | 03:23 AM
#776
Gets Weekends Off
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Can you post where you got those numbers?The Debt-To-Equity Ratio of Major U.S. AirlinesAirlineDebt-To-Equity RatioUnited Airlines1.7735Allegiant Airlines1.6648Spirit Airlines1.5734Hawaiian Airlines1.2592Delta Airlines1.1717Alaska Airlines0.7428JetBlue0.6568Southwest Airlines0.4070American Airlines (AAL) is not included as it is currently running a negative debt-to-equity ratio.
Ex: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/united-airlines-debt-overview-142026401.html
11-19-2021 | 03:38 AM
#777
Line Holder
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Atlas. My first month off OE guarantees approx 17k on year 1 pay (my line guarantee is just over 145 hours). It would be 19k on year 2 pay. Not every month will be that productive, but 180k on year 2 pay is doable for now. With covid going away, this will likely be lower in the future.
do you have Ltd in the new contract?
Can the company still back your trips up so you can do 28 days straight?
11-19-2021 | 09:54 AM
#780
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[QUOTE=Virga show;3324514]
I think flow is a good perk. I just don’t think outside of flow the WO should have anything more or less then a off-the-street new hire. You’re literally handed a job. I think the WO should be able to apply and interview outside of flow. If not offered a CJO then no flow. I was the not so “lucky” in 2008-2010 when all the regionals furloughed and were stagnant for year. Oh and the 65 rule didn’t help much.
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Congratulations your better than me. I'm not sure why you care so much about all the regionals then. It seemed like you actually had skin in the game with your previous post. just worry about yourself and let us not so “lucky” covid held back regional pilots worry about about the regionals and flow.
Congratulations your better than me. I'm not sure why you care so much about all the regionals then. It seemed like you actually had skin in the game with your previous post. just worry about yourself and let us not so “lucky” covid held back regional pilots worry about about the regionals and flow.
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