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Old 05-30-2021, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AV8R72
its not equal. Are you willing to give AA pilots priority on all of republics flights? Didn’t think so
You're talking about two different things from the first sentence to the next. The mutual priority proposal is not good enough for you because of DC/UAX, OK. It's your prerogative to choose mutual OAL. That's what the post you quoted is about. But then how is that not equal?

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Old 05-30-2021, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BattMartle
APA chose not to agree to an alteration of a long standing agreement. That sucks for you. What it does not do is make it acceptable to unilaterally change an existing agreement.
Why not?

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Old 05-30-2021, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BattMartle
APA chose not to agree to an alteration of a long standing agreement. That sucks for you. What it does not do is make it acceptable to unilaterally change an existing agreement.
Well you aren't special enough to continue receiving priority for a JS while not reciprocating said priority. Now we are OAL on each other. Welcome aboard.

By the way this is the option that hurts AAG pilots. The other option doesn't hurt a single AAG pilot. Good to see you're proud of your union for hurting its own pilots

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Old 05-30-2021, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by madcow
Sounds like United and Delta give Republic priority on the jumpseat over a Hawaiian Airlines pilot on their respective airlines because the Republic pilot produces more revenue for them than the Hawaiian Airlines pilot, so Delta pilots and United pilots get priority on the Republic jumpseat over the Hawaiian airlines pilot.

It sounds like American currently does NOT give the Republic airlines pilot priority on the jumpseat over the Hawaiian Airlines pilot even though the Republic pilot produces more revenue for American. So Republic is going to stop giving American priority over Hawaiian airlines pilots on their jumpseats,

Basically, American considers Republic as OAL, so Republic will now consider American as OAL.

Is that correct?

So what your saying is UA and DL are violating the JS agreements with every other OAL by treating one OAL (RAH) differently than all the other OAL's......
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Old 05-30-2021, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
This cracks me up. Just going off memory the APA Vice President is a retired Marine Corps Colonel who during combat deployment reported directly to Gen. Mattis. It’s funny reading a little Pi$$ ant like you call him a child.
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Old 05-30-2021, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by magnus0322
Industry Standard:

Mainline Carrier.

Wholly Owneds.

Non wholly Owneds.

OAL.

AAG pilots want priority on the YX JS but want to keep us as OAL. Why exactly are you entitled to priority?

I'm no longer interested in AAC FDJ to be honest. I realize now that AA pilots are scared of Industry Standard.

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I asked about which planes you want priority on since you’re only offering priority part for republic’s fleet
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Old 05-30-2021, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by AV8R72
I asked about which planes you want priority on since you’re only offering priority part for republic’s fleet
You're asking for an industry nonstandard agreement. We are asking for Industry Standard.

Your argument would have some validity if this wasn't already Industry Standard.

You don't want to give us priority that's perfectly ok with me. You are not entitled to priority on a YX JS. Welcome aboard.

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Old 05-30-2021, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AV8R72
I asked about which planes you want priority on since you’re only offering priority part for republic’s fleet
Oh, did AA start international jumpseating? Get back to me when they do and your argument might hold water. Until then, neither entity is offering all of their planes. We're offering roughly 50% of ours, and you're offering maybe 70% of yours. Not perfect, but not really that far off, either.

And if that is what you want, maybe have your union reach out to ours and communicate that.

I'm sure Delta and United would be willing to engage if y'all paid for the changes to code this into the software, yours and theirs, to put each other's pilots ahead of OAL, but behind in-system carriers (wholly-owned and contract) on Republic flights. Personally I'd be fine with that, as a nod to our three partners, but considering it's never even been presented to our union as a possibility/desire, I don't see how we can respond to it.

It's kinda weird how the Delta and United guys really don't seem to care, especially considering they get an even smaller share of priority on our planes, but hey, y'all do you.

You've made your choice. The agreement is equal now. And y'all have, through your hard-line stance, negotiated yourselves out of priority on our aircraft when it would've cost you nothing to retain it. It's absolutely dizzying.

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Old 05-30-2021, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by captive apple
This is false and has been directly pointed out to you sanicom3205 in the past, so why keep saying it? Have a good weekend.
Its not false. It’s about as basic of a truth as you can get.

The reason you can’t jumpseat on our international flights is because of the TSA. You should call them, or ride your own jumpseat to Europe. If you had that ability, maybe we could talk about reciprocity.
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Old 05-30-2021, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205
Its not false. It’s about as basic of a truth as you can get.

The reason you can’t jumpseat on our international flights is because of the TSA. You should call them, or ride your own jumpseat to Europe. If you had that ability, maybe we could talk about reciprocity.
but the fact remains is that we don't get jumpseat privileges on all your planes as you have falsely claimed. Also many of our AA aircraft have two jumpseats which would come in handy if a RPA pilot shows up, they can sit back there while you sit up front.
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