Jumpseat Battle Brewing
#911
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This effects AA pilots
#912
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#913
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By the way this is the option that hurts AAG pilots. The other option doesn't hurt a single AAG pilot. Good to see you're proud of your union for hurting its own pilots
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#914
Sounds like United and Delta give Republic priority on the jumpseat over a Hawaiian Airlines pilot on their respective airlines because the Republic pilot produces more revenue for them than the Hawaiian Airlines pilot, so Delta pilots and United pilots get priority on the Republic jumpseat over the Hawaiian airlines pilot.
It sounds like American currently does NOT give the Republic airlines pilot priority on the jumpseat over the Hawaiian Airlines pilot even though the Republic pilot produces more revenue for American. So Republic is going to stop giving American priority over Hawaiian airlines pilots on their jumpseats,
Basically, American considers Republic as OAL, so Republic will now consider American as OAL.
Is that correct?
It sounds like American currently does NOT give the Republic airlines pilot priority on the jumpseat over the Hawaiian Airlines pilot even though the Republic pilot produces more revenue for American. So Republic is going to stop giving American priority over Hawaiian airlines pilots on their jumpseats,
Basically, American considers Republic as OAL, so Republic will now consider American as OAL.
Is that correct?
So what your saying is UA and DL are violating the JS agreements with every other OAL by treating one OAL (RAH) differently than all the other OAL's......
#915
#916
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Industry Standard:
Mainline Carrier.
Wholly Owneds.
Non wholly Owneds.
OAL.
AAG pilots want priority on the YX JS but want to keep us as OAL. Why exactly are you entitled to priority?
I'm no longer interested in AAC FDJ to be honest. I realize now that AA pilots are scared of Industry Standard.
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Mainline Carrier.
Wholly Owneds.
Non wholly Owneds.
OAL.
AAG pilots want priority on the YX JS but want to keep us as OAL. Why exactly are you entitled to priority?
I'm no longer interested in AAC FDJ to be honest. I realize now that AA pilots are scared of Industry Standard.
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#917
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Your argument would have some validity if this wasn't already Industry Standard.
You don't want to give us priority that's perfectly ok with me. You are not entitled to priority on a YX JS. Welcome aboard.
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#918
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And if that is what you want, maybe have your union reach out to ours and communicate that.
I'm sure Delta and United would be willing to engage if y'all paid for the changes to code this into the software, yours and theirs, to put each other's pilots ahead of OAL, but behind in-system carriers (wholly-owned and contract) on Republic flights. Personally I'd be fine with that, as a nod to our three partners, but considering it's never even been presented to our union as a possibility/desire, I don't see how we can respond to it.
It's kinda weird how the Delta and United guys really don't seem to care, especially considering they get an even smaller share of priority on our planes, but hey, y'all do you.
You've made your choice. The agreement is equal now. And y'all have, through your hard-line stance, negotiated yourselves out of priority on our aircraft when it would've cost you nothing to retain it. It's absolutely dizzying.
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#919
This is false and has been directly pointed out to you sanicom3205 in the past, so why keep saying it? Have a good weekend.
The reason you can’t jumpseat on our international flights is because of the TSA. You should call them, or ride your own jumpseat to Europe. If you had that ability, maybe we could talk about reciprocity.
#920
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but the fact remains is that we don't get jumpseat privileges on all your planes as you have falsely claimed. Also many of our AA aircraft have two jumpseats which would come in handy if a RPA pilot shows up, they can sit back there while you sit up front.
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