Jumpseat Battle Brewing
05-30-2021, 10:52 AM
#941
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: CA
Posts: 483
Originally Posted by Tring
It’s pretty important to have read and know the contents of an agreement before you claim one party is breaking it. If you can’t, then your entire argument is pretty baseless.
I really can’t explain why APA or Local 357 is doing anything because I’m not directly involved. This is why you won’t see me claiming things I don’t know. It keeps the conversation honest but you do you.
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I really can’t explain why APA or Local 357 is doing anything because I’m not directly involved. This is why you won’t see me claiming things I don’t know. It keeps the conversation honest but you do you.
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05-30-2021, 10:56 AM
#942
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2020
Posts: 71
Originally Posted by Tring
You might be right and you might be wrong. Your entire argument is just hot air and has no real substance.
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05-30-2021, 10:58 AM
#943
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Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 184
Originally Posted by greatmovieistar
no they haven't, but I wouldn't put it past the children at apa to make up a fib or two to that effect. Just like yesterday when they just lied about rpa pilots bullying gate agents (lol) to enforce the new FOM. They forgot when they spread that lie that the change is not even in effect yet. Must be flow throughs on that council that didn't have any college degree, not very smart.
Looks like this could potentially be a bad deal for APA pilots if they agree to it.
05-30-2021, 11:03 AM
#944
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 175
Originally Posted by SilverandSore
I’m not the one advocating for a change to the status quo. I’m certainly not going to read a legal agreement and then give my interpretation, I let the union speak for me. APA tells me to continue offering Republic pilots the jumpseat. They specify a scenario where there might be a security threat, in that situation we do not offer a seat. It’s good enough for me. But you do you, fight the good fight bro!
Yeah, we’re all only as useful as the information we’re given. We have to do what our Union tells us as well. The security threat thing makes sense. It’s always been a security threat though. I am scratching my head as to why it is only now being disclosed. IDK, maybe you’ve had other communication about it that I’m not aware of.
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05-30-2021, 11:05 AM
#945
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 175
Originally Posted by BattMartle
Incorrect. Prior practice is generally binding in contract law, especially for as long as it’s been going on.
Again, you don’t know what you’re talking about. I am a little happy you put the word “generally” in there to cover yourself though
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05-30-2021, 11:11 AM
#946
Eating A Gruben
Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,065
Originally Posted by greatmovieistar
everything seems to be news to you as you obviously don't know that much. I'm not going to explain it to you as you have difficulty retaining information so not worth wasting time. But there are instances on a full flight that if it was you and a Republic pilot for the jumpseat, you would get it and the rpa guy would sit with the fa in the back.
You also said you weren’t going to explain it, and then explained it in the next sentence. Thanks for that.
So sometimes you can get an extra pilot on in that specific situation. What happens when a republic fa shows up to jumpseat? Meanwhile, all of our buses have two cockpit jumpseats.
05-30-2021, 11:15 AM
#947
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: ERJ 170
Posts: 729
Originally Posted by SilverandSore
Asking and denied. There is precedence in this agreement, one party chooses not to change the agreement, case closed. You can't win this one, you simply don't have enough carrot to dangle.
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05-30-2021, 11:16 AM
#948
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: ERJ 170
Posts: 729
Originally Posted by AV8R72
We are being asked to jeopardize our agreements with other carriers.
it’s over. APA said no. Get ready to see how AA reacts when they have to lose revenue by giving an A1D to a pilot wrongly denied the jump
it’s over. APA said no. Get ready to see how AA reacts when they have to lose revenue by giving an A1D to a pilot wrongly denied the jump
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05-30-2021, 11:17 AM
#949
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Position: ERJ 170
Posts: 729
Originally Posted by SilverandSore
Nothing pathetic about it. We’ve been operating under this agreement for years. A change in the agreement where Republic goes higher on a list certainly forces someone (who ends up not being in the jumpseat) to give something up. Sorry you guys feel this way but outside of a new agreement there is nothing you can do except harm yourselves and other commuting pilots. Per my union, I will continue to welcome you guys on my jump seat in the order we have, currently, established.
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05-30-2021, 11:19 AM
#950
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: ERJ 170
Posts: 729
Originally Posted by Al Czervik
What percentages of republic flying are
DL
UAL
AA
?
DL
UAL
AA
?
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