Jumpseat Battle Brewing
#961
#962
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#963
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So it's the methods, not the content. OK, it seems like Republic has tried to respectfully engage with APA for years. And what has APA's method been? To tell them to shut up and go away. What do you think about that method? You can say they're within their rights to do that, but if you do then how can you, at the same time, then turn around and tut-tut Republic for providing, as a default, extending the same status to the other group that they've already been under for years? What's a more childish method, to stonewall the other party or to offer reasonable options to choose from?
No such thing is being broken, as the agreement does not specify priority levels. (I could be wrong on this, but am provisionally believing it unless shown otherwise.) They're continuing the agreement, but changing the priority.
No such thing is being broken, as the agreement does not specify priority levels. (I could be wrong on this, but am provisionally believing it unless shown otherwise.) They're continuing the agreement, but changing the priority.
Moreover, and here's the dagger in the only remaining "argument" left, "each Participating carrier reserves the right to modify any and all of its employee travel policies, including but not limited to, provisions related to travel priority, dress code, listing requirements or baggage allowances."
So not only has Republic not violated the agreement, there is explicit language in the agreement that allows this very thing.
What's the next argument, folks?
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#964
It does not. There is no priority specified in our agreement.
Moreover, and here's the dagger in the only remaining "argument" left, "each Participating carrier reserves the right to modify any and all of its employee travel policies, including but not limited to, provisions related to travel priority, dress code, listing requirements or baggage allowances."
So not only has Republic not violated the agreement, there is explicit language in the agreement that allows this very thing.
What's the next argument, folks?
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Moreover, and here's the dagger in the only remaining "argument" left, "each Participating carrier reserves the right to modify any and all of its employee travel policies, including but not limited to, provisions related to travel priority, dress code, listing requirements or baggage allowances."
So not only has Republic not violated the agreement, there is explicit language in the agreement that allows this very thing.
What's the next argument, folks?
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Technically being able to do something doesn’t make it the right thing to do, by the way. Technically you can deny every jumpseater that comes your way for “safety”. Should we all go around doing that?
Technically AA can take away your ability to sit in the back of your own planes I guess. There’s explicit language in the agreement that allows this very thing, right?
#965
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I understand that some may not be compelled by the "partial usage" reasoning, but if you reject that, then I'm still struggling to find the injustice in one party giving the other party, as a default, what they're getting.
Technically being able to do something doesn’t make it the right thing to do, by the way. Technically you can deny every jumpseater that comes your way for “safety”. Should we all go around doing that?
Technically AA can take away your ability to sit in the back of your own planes I guess. There’s explicit language in the agreement that allows this very thing, right?
Technically AA can take away your ability to sit in the back of your own planes I guess. There’s explicit language in the agreement that allows this very thing, right?
No, and neither of these things mirror anything so far discussed. It would be a move motivated by malice, meant simply to harm. Instead, the current move by Rah merely matches the other party to their own status, after a protracted good faith effort to match positively instead of negatively.
#966
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
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Still have yet to hear a compelling argument as to why it’s okay that you give us priority on about 48% of your domestic flights and want priority on 100% of our domestic flights.
Technically being able to do something doesn’t make it the right thing to do, by the way. Technically you can deny every jumpseater that comes your way for “safety”. Should we all go around doing that?
Technically AA can take away your ability to sit in the back of your own planes I guess. There’s explicit language in the agreement that allows this very thing, right?
Technically being able to do something doesn’t make it the right thing to do, by the way. Technically you can deny every jumpseater that comes your way for “safety”. Should we all go around doing that?
Technically AA can take away your ability to sit in the back of your own planes I guess. There’s explicit language in the agreement that allows this very thing, right?
Come on Sanicom, show us some love… you know deep down you want to. It will pay off in the long run
#967
You forget about the part where AA has part ownership of Republic. Even if I take an AA jumpseat to go fly for DL or UA… i’m still contributing to AA’s bottom line. You’re not doing the same for UA or DL.. so no, you shouldn’t bump them off of an RAH operated DL or UA flight. We’re trying to speak for ALL AE carriers (RAH, SkyWest and Mesa) that we should be given the courtesy of going above Southwest, Spirit, Frontier… etc on AA flights.
#968
You forget about the part where AA has part ownership of Republic. Even if I take an AA jumpseat to go fly for DL or UA… i’m still contributing to AA’s bottom line. You’re not doing the same for UA or DL.. so no, you shouldn’t bump them off of an RAH operated DL or UA flight. We’re trying to speak for ALL AE carriers (RAH, SkyWest and Mesa) that we should be given the courtesy of going above Southwest, Spirit, Frontier… etc on AA flights.
Please enlighten us as to why your opinion has changed and rah can unilaterally change the agreement and still occupy the jumpseat on our aircraft, yet it was the basis for denying UAL guys two years ago?
#969
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#970
From the last time your account was active, which was the last time you guys weaponized the jumpseat. The fight really brings you out of the woodwork.
Please enlighten us as to why your opinion has changed and rah can unilaterally change the agreement and still occupy the jumpseat on our aircraft, yet it was the basis for denying UAL guys two years ago?
Two completely different situations….
Please enlighten us as to why your opinion has changed? It seems we all agree here so I don’t see why there’s even a problem in the first place
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