AA Hiring?
08-11-2021, 12:56 PM
#353
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Originally Posted by ItwillBuffout
As far filling classes. Is there a set % of new hires that have to be flows(incl. all WO) vs street hires(incl Mil). or is that just AA’s discretion?
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The short answer is: it is a percentage.
The longer (but still incomplete) answer.
Each WO has a slightly different agreement so it may be a percentage, or a flat number, or a min/max number. I believe they all refer to “per month”, not “per class”, so each class can vary as well. It’s all negotiated into the various CBAs.
08-11-2021, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by prs guitars
i have friends that were hired in dec ish of 2019, and can’t quite hold it yet. That said, by the end of 2022 i bet it’s back down to 6 to 9 months. Dfw nb captain is pretty jr now too, not lga jr but on par with lax and jr to mia. 320 ca is jr to 737 ca currently. We will know more soon when our bid award comes out.
mia ca 320 doh 2/11/2013
08-11-2021, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ItwillBuffout
As far filling classes. Is there a set % of new hires that have to be flows(incl. all WO) vs street hires(incl Mil). or is that just AA’s discretion?
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2017 and 2018 had about 55% flows from the 3 WO. Sure going forward things will be a bit different, depending on contractual flow numbers and number of pilots AA hire.
Those two years had the remainder split between Mil. and Civilian OTS. One year was predominately Mil. The other was about split equally. Sure this will depend on how many Mil. will come available and how many other airlines are pulling in Mil. That is a limited pool. So when it runs low or there are more total hires, the Civilian OTS increases.
YMMV
08-12-2021, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Yuko
Do you know if AA is still trying to keep a large pilot population around 15K? Or would they try to slim down a couple a thousand or get even bigger?
08-12-2021, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Yuko
Do you know if AA is still trying to keep a large pilot population around 15K? Or would they try to slim down a couple a thousand or get even bigger?
They have identified that capturing all revenue for the size fleet they have now is a priority over capacity growth.
Tore a page from Delta playbook who sells tickets for AirFrance, KLM, West Jet, Air Mexico, LATAM etc.
08-12-2021, 08:26 AM
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With the huge wave of retirements in the next 5 years it’s going to be tough to grow much if at all. All the new hires will just be replacing those leaving, plus the training center will be maxed out on upgrades, initials, and transition events. I’d bet most of the incoming 787s will be replacing the old 777s and 5 years from now we’ll still be at 13,500-14,000 pilots.
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