It must be fixed. Our trips are beyond terrible and getting worse month after month.

Personally, I prefer regional routes. I love ODANs, too. I’ll be flying those when the company implements them.

Well, I've been here a while and also was junior for a long time. They hired like 300 people the year I was hired. It took me three years just to get reserve at my preferred domicile.

I bid reserve half the year now and swap with OT often, so I know what the crappier trips look like. Due to the short legs, you'll do more of them, that's just a result of taking back the flying, which I assume everyone here wants. But maybe not. Maybe you'd rather be in an RJ doing it?

Just have some perspective is all I'm saying. I'd love everyone have cake trips but some will just be crappier than others, and yes being junior sucks.

​​​​​​ Legs under an hour block, daytime flying 7-5, and most importantly no red eyes. God I hated those. Junior lineholders did 2x 3-day trips a week for 20 hours pay. 10 days off.

On the 80 I routinely had 12-14 leg 4-days worth 18-19 hours too. With a 110° cockpit.

I'm with you brother and even asked that very same question (1:1 RIG) during the last Town Hall. Unfortunately,, the NC Chair answered and said they pretty much turned off any effort for this 1:1 RIG because APA knows what's best for pilots better than the pilot group. They keep saying it would create longer trips but fail to mention - it could eliminate planned 2-4 hour sits in CLT/DFW (that are the primary reason for 11-12hr duty days). I also don't buy APA'a argument that "1:1 RIG will cause you to work more days per month." That's completely baseless. Most of us lineholders credit only 5:15 per day so the number of days to meet the LCW won't change because of the 1:1 RIG.

Louder for the peeps in the back.

Have also sent my sound offs advocating for the same.

I don't think they are saying it will be more days just longer trips. Reference my post about making the regional legs 2 trips. The point about the sits is true too, get rid of those and the days become much more bearable.

A simple analysis of our trip length vs DAL/UAL will prove or disprove their point. I wonder why we haven't seen anything like that?

I don't think you even need to do that. UAL's contract allows NB trips to be 4-days in length, maximum. And they have EDP over 10 hours...so if anything, it seems like EDP eliminates 5-day trips?

From my observation the 5-day trips are flown by people who actually want them. Some are pretty efficient too, like 30+ credit. Is anyone getting these trips on reserve? I never see them in OT.

Rhetorical I know, but for those uninitiated, the APA will never change course for fear of exposing past mistakes.

Just head on over to The Line, every time someone brings up past mistakes there is a cavalry of area-code seniority and retired APA BOD members that come out of the woodwork to keep their version of history alive. Nobody talks about the future.

The sad part is that we have post-merger pilots in the building at APA that have been indoctrinated into that world who are carrying the torch for a generation that's on its way out the door and is hell bent on keeping that same culture of "we know what's best for you" going.