Then that is base and time of year specific. Seniority means nothing when you have less hours for the month than everybody else in your bucket.

Eventually Seniority means almost nothing and you can’t hide forever come the 2nd half of the month.

Good friend with TWA, NB senior captain, used to bid SC reserve in June, every two years. Painted his house siding, then two years later did the window trim. Only once did he get called. Out and back. Home for dinner. Otherwise he was painting. Better than taking vacation.

It blows my mind reserve isn’t top of the list senior. mostly 2-day trips. Living in base 20 plus nights in your own bed usually.

AA has "sick if needed" for reserves. You can call in "sick if needed". If you are on reserve and you were not going to be used, it doesn't cost you anything. If they call you, then your sick time starts.

Here's the real trick...if they call you for a trip the next day, you can call in "not sick" the next morning and you are back on reserve and it doesn't cost you any sick time.

Yup. Use 1 week of vacation and a couple sick calls and you can take most of the month off, if not all of it.

You'll be to a line within 6-9 months...tops. Better QoL is the equipment you don't have to commute to.

Fastest line? 73s to LGA.

I see lots of senior playing the 3 day reserve block with 1700 RAP. Unless you get called for a red eye that night, you're not much use to scheduling for your whole block beyond a 2 day trip. Lots of low GTD reserves for the month.

Put this on a wall and frame it.

How long is the wait to get to ORD out of training?

bottom 25 guys were hired between June and august last year

A class in November had 8 ORD spots

1/25/23

lga/fo/737/i - 3
mia/fo/737/i - 13
lga/fo/737/d - 10
phl/fo/320/i - 15
lga/fo/320/d - 17

ORD hasn't been in a class drop since May 2022. Lately it has been around 8 to 9 months after hire date before people have been able to hold ORD through vacancy bidding (usually the 3rd vacancy bid). Expect to commute 4 to 5 months on the line before getting it. Sure there are exceptions but this is the case for the majority of people that I know. ORD is very senior and stagnant on the FO side.

Can you post that class drop, not saying that you are wrong but I did not notice it and trust me I am watching it VERY closely. I would be surprised if I missed this. I haven't seen an ORD class drop since May.

how far in advance before first day of class have the drops been pushed out

Anywhere from 1 to 6 days

you are right. I accidentally was referring to the 8 that got CLT in Nov, not ORD. Need more sleep

Junior Number
 

Can someone share the following?

MIA 737 Junior FO lineholder #
MIA 737 Junior Capt#

Looks like
- June 2022 hire
- Nov 2019 hire

What does it look like on the A320 side?

August 2022 Hire for Line FO
June 2019 Hire for CA

How are any of you pilots? 1% follow the actual thread info 🙄

Thread drift is a staple of APC

When are the future indoc classes?

If it's anything like last year- every Wednesday for the entire year, minus a few holiday weeks like Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years. And any month with 5 Wednesdays only got 4 classes I think.

01FEB2023 Class Drop
 

CLT/fo/737/i 1

LGA/fo/737/i 4

MIA/fo/737/i 12

DCA/fo/737/d 3

LGA/fo/737/d 8

PHL/fo/320/i 11

LGA/fo/320/d 11

How does it work if you don’t get the base you want, but it’s offered to a class after you, but before the next vacancy? Tough luck until a new vacancy opens?

yup

filler

Luck and timing

You can base transfer through MBE (mutual base exchange) between pilots.

... after you complete initial training.

This is false. I thought this as well so I waited. People junior to me got the MBE while still in sims. Put that in ASAP

Either way MBE only works if there is somebody willing to switch. So don't think you're going to be able to MBE your way from LGA to PHX or ORD. You will have to wait for vacancy bids for that.

They need to edit that part of the MBE input page then.

You also cannot be the most junior pilot in the base you are attempting to get into. That little tidbit is why I had to wait for a vacancy.

Feb 8

MIA FO 737 I - 5
LGA FO 737 D - 17
PHL FO 320 I - 6
LGA FO 320 D - 21

Hope you like the west coast /s

The West Coast is quickly dying a terrible death. I just hope they don't bring their garbage politics to places like Texas. They already destroyed California, no need to move on and destroy even more states.

Any idea what the junior line holder DOH is for LGA 737 and 320?

737/D - 8/2022
737/I - 6/2022
320/D - 7/2022

So basically 2-3 months after you finish training.