They did.

filler

Did you have that link? Interested in seeing your take and responding.

between everyone who has worked at our wholly owned before, who already get it, and military guys who take a lot of orders during year one, what percentage of our new hires even really care? Not saying we shouldn’t fight for it, just wondering how much pressure there is to get it.

It’s in one of the other threads.

Where you tried to say my post was incorrect but failed? Yes, probably in one of the other threads.

The one where I factually corrected your “facts”, yes that one. Funny how you never responded to that one either.

The one where somebody already responded before I got a chanced and told you that you were wrong? Why would I respond if someone did it for me? You need two people to tell you that?

Just so this doesn't get lost from the meaningless posts from the company stooge was so excited about his extra week of vacation he was about to vote in an industry lagging contract:

- No 401K contribution your first year
- Your second year pay won't start until a year and a half after your hire date, that will remain your pay-date for the rest of your career.

These two things combined will result in hundreds of thousands of dollars in lost retirement income.

Unlike Delta and United where new hires get a wide range of base and aircraft choices (including widebodies) right out of class, you will get 737 or A320 in LGA and MIA with a hope and a prayer you get the base you want within your first year. This was the last class drop:

MIA FO 737 I - 5
LGA FO 737 D - 17
PHL FO 320 I - 6
LGA FO 320 D - 21

An established old guard who stimey progress at this airline in the name of decades old grudges. Were more than happy to lock us into a subpar TA while the other Legacies leapfrog us in pay and continue to be light-years ahead in QOL.

Lot to consider for people who have a choice in what airline they want to spend the rest of their life at.

But I wasn’t wrong and you were, so?

So it is fact that every single new hire receives 2nd year pay at 1.5 years? How many new hires in the past year have not gotten the base of their choosing in 12+ months?

So about those class drops...

Never said every new hire did. Although the majority hired in the second half of the year saw something along those lines. It is artificially shortened now due to the break in new hire classes but will climb back up by the time anybody interviewing today will start class. PHX, LAX, and ORD many new hires do not get until 9 to 12 months after hire date.

Try again stooge

beat me to it…

2/22 should be dropping soon. I'm in it, we haven't gotten it yet 😬

Did the drop for tomorrow's class come out already? Not sure if I missed it in all this off topic ramblings.

Point me to a post where you have stated it wasn’t 18 months. Like I’ve said before, just be honest, there is no need to make **** up.

As someone coming up on 12 months, and another 4 months to go for the second year pay bump Id say it’s worth fighting for. And now with a larger percentage of pilots coming from ULCCs and other non wholly owned it’s affecting a lot of people.

Not having the 16% last year with the market down hurt as well.

Red Forman, give it a rest. No one cares and the point you're trying to make in this internet fight is flat. "I'mSoSuss" was genuinely correct in his statements and I'm living proof of it as well, his timelines are accurate. File a butt hurt report with your union rep and move on/stop trolling us, we genuinely want the info this thread was meant for and are tired of you clogging it up.

All, Please keep this thread to the class drop topic. Anything more can go to DM's or the appropriate threads, thanks.

Point to me where I was wrong, as you have not been able to do and the point of this whole discourse Mr. Company Stooge. The only thing you have been able to do is to point out that there are instances where it may be a little bit better than what I described. Well that's cute, good luck for the new hire. They may have their pay date a few weeks sooner and get their choice base a month or two sooner. Yay!!!

Still mad at that "Facebook crowd" for getting the last TA shot down? It's funny how you can tell who are the same posters on here and The Line.

Please mods! Can we start banning posters that do not stay on topic? Thank you

I am coming up on class and am tired of thinking there is a class drop only to come to this BS

Drops are usually Friday so you can ignore it until then

Drifting, drifting...

With a class starting tomorrow?

Or is there no class?

There is a class. Expect it to post later today or tmw.

What if there wasn’t a time limit on being able to edit your post, so that a dedicated thread starter could just keep adding class drops to the opening post and all the off topic crap could be ignored…

Feb 15th drop

Lga/fo/737/i - 2

lga/fo/737/d - 13

lga/fo/320/d - 18

mia/fo/737/i - 4

dca/fo/320/i - 5

phl/fo/320/i - 6

Great attitude for a new hire.

LOL, oh no, I have a great attitude. I am happy with my decision and respect others opinions, but that thread was way off topic. I just find so much hate on public forums, it amazes me. Some people just need to have a few adult beverages and chill, enjoy life and make the best of it.

I know this is frustrating, but it is like trying to herd cats. Reminders and cautions can help.

But if we take your advice, rigorously, the mods will start banning many of the major contributors, myself included. They would have to ban most all of the moderators, as well. And many others. They might end up banning you. Not a good idea.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ilq8SzToP...t+of+ideas.pngI kid I kid…

Every time someone posts something other than a class drop, the OP kicks a puppy.





​​​​​​….he just did it again

How long to hold either LAX or PHX if on the 320 and LAX if 73? (This is almost related to class drops)


Any hope to hold a line on either plane in a west coast base in a reasonable time?



How are the reserve rules in general? Any flexibility on RAPs? What about time to at least hold LC reserve?



Appreciate your help. I know things are “do NOT come to American” right now but long term AA has bases where I have family and I do not want to commute.

Balance what you want and needs. AAL was my #1 and I love it. Sure, things need work and the contract needs to get better, but of course, no one wants to be on a bankruptcy contract. I bid reserve, live in base, and am gone on avg 6 nights a month. I'm still relatively junior, get the schedule I want, weekends off, etc. Avg 55ish hrs/mo. If you have any questions PM me. Good luck.

You’re going to hold a line quicker than any time in our history. Took me 4 years to get to 70% FO in CLT, takes 6 to 9 months for an FO in DFW to hit that (don’t know about CLT). Point is the movement is fast right now.

He’s right took me a year to get 50% in base. Upgrade on the 737 should drop under 2 years by end of summer.

I hit 75% in MIA before I even touched an airplane. 2 months of LC and should have a line for March. This month on LC was a breeze. Only 4 nights away from home, all 22 hour layover in Punta Cana, Nassau in Baha Mar, and Bogota. So far going to 16.5 days off this month probably end up 17-18 off. Life isn’t bad… I enjoy it here and cancelled my Delta interview for the second time this January and don’t regret it.

are you on the 73 or the Bus?

Im in the bus.

Oh! ok , Thanks.

Hold it right there guys….positivity isn’t allowed at AA!