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Old 03-07-2023 | 03:44 PM
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I agree that Ed is doing a good job. I don’t agree that this is a negotiation tactic by management.
This made me lol. Thanks for the laugh.
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Old 03-07-2023 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NotPhlying
I agree that Ed is doing a good job. I don’t agree that this is a negotiation tactic by management.
Yikes. I legitimately feel bad for you if you believe that. Shows a lot about who you are. That’s the type of thinking that has us settled into a bankruptcy era contract with no end in sight.
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Old 03-07-2023 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ny797
Yikes. I legitimately feel bad for you if you believe that. Shows a lot about who you are. That’s the type of thinking that has us settled into a bankruptcy era contract with no end in sight.
Me supporting Ed or the fact Isom said what APA has said before (Negotiations Update 2/18) is forcing us into a bankruptcy era contract? I forgot you voted for Sam Pool, makes sense now.

PS - Don’t feel bad for me dude.
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Old 03-07-2023 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NotPhlying
Right around your seniority, except LAA.
If you’re not new I’m afraid you’re something else. Do a little research on union busting tactics.
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Old 03-07-2023 | 05:17 PM
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Trying to get through spring break and keep CKPs from quiting.
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Old 03-07-2023 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NotPhlying
Me supporting Ed or the fact Isom said what APA has said before (Negotiations Update 2/18) is forcing us into a bankruptcy era contract? I forgot you voted for Sam Pool, makes sense now.

PS - Don’t feel bad for me dude.
Nothing to do with Ed or Sam. How did sam even come into this thread? My apologies for not being clearer, what I meant was you believing this isn’t a union busting negotiating tactic by Isom. Let the negotiators do their work and when a TA is ready I’m more than willing to vote yes on something that I deem worthy. Until then, I don’t want to be hearing from anyone in management, leaking info on the contents of a possible deal in hopes that we will publicly discuss what will get AA their 51% yes vote. THAT is a what Isom is doing and it is not only blatantly obvious, but negotiating in bad faith.
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Old 03-07-2023 | 05:37 PM
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Isom is desperate. F him and all the new CKA. I am a no just to spite them unless we get true industry leading QOL.
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Old 03-07-2023 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Armyguy
I am a no just to spite them unless we get true industry leading QOL.
"Competitive".

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Old 03-07-2023 | 08:08 PM
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I didn’t really hear anything in the video that the union wouldn’t agree with. I don’t think it’s appropriate to send this directly to a labor group in negotiations, but whatever.
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Old 03-07-2023 | 08:23 PM
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I mean just look at the obvious here and who he is targeting. He throws numbers out there in terms of how much someone at the top of the pay scale will make. He’s trying to brainwash the old guys that have a couple years left to vote yes (no matter what) to get this deal done now. The guys that are near retirement don’t care about the work rules or the future of the AA pilot QOL, all they want is to make more money before they hit 65. I think getting the Delta pay rates are great, but work rules are important as well. Definitely don’t settle for just one of those things.
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