AIP Reached
#81
Summarized Highlights
Note: All “May 2” dates are based on an Aug. 1, 2023, ratification that will change if the agreement is not ratified Aug. 1.
Note: All “May 2” dates are based on an Aug. 1, 2023, ratification that will change if the agreement is not ratified Aug. 1.
- Duration – 4 years; Amendable date: Aug. 1, 2027
- Back Pay – (based on eligible earnings)
- 2020: 4%
- 2021: 4%
- 2022: 14%
- 2023: ~21% (3 months preceding DOS (thus effective May 2, 2023)
- Pay rates that meet or exceed Delta pay rates:
- (DOS ~21% increase)
- May 2, 2024: 5%
- May 2, 2025: 4%
- May 2, 2026: 4%
- May 2, 2027: 3% Amendable year raise
- Increase of 401(k) contributions increase to:
- 17% on May 2, 2024
- 18% on May 2, 2026
- Realign pay step date (pay longevity) to date of hire for all pilots who have not reached 12th year pay.
- Establish a Market Based Cash Balance Plan.
- Sick sell-back – or – Retiree Health Reimbursement Arrangement (RHRA) option for pilots at retirement at 66% of the value of accrued sick bank (up to $200,000).
- Vacation year 2024/2025 and beyond: 4:35 pay per day.
- Vacation year 2025/2026 and beyond: 4:00 credit per day.
- Increase of vacation accrual to 35 days at 19 years of service.
- Long-haul narrowbody (NB) override: CA $8.00/FO $6.00 on all NB flying to Europe, South America (south of the equator), and Hawaii.
- International Override: CA $6.50/FO $4.50 (includes Canada).
- Improved profit sharing to the Delta formula (10% up to $2.5B pre-tax profit, 20% for anything above).
- Increase training pay to 5:00 per day.
- Increase (long course) training pay for Initial, Upgrade, Transition to 3:05 per day.
- Holiday pay for nine (9) holidays of an additional 5:15 for each designated holiday duty touches (includes simulator training, DHD’s to/from training, OE, and CKP).
- Deadhead (DHD) pays greater of scheduled or actual if pilot on aircraft.
- Jumpseat: Captain may coordinate to account for expected taxi fuel burn to offset jumpseat occupant.
- Pairing Construction Limits:
- 1- and 2-day pairings: minimum of 20%
- 4-day pairings: average maximum of 38% in a rolling 12-month period, max 43% in any month
- 5-day pairings: average max of 8% in a rolling 12-month period, max of 10% in any month
- Elimination of ACARS use for scheduling purposes.
- Newly developed pilot-centric Electronic Communication System (ECS).
- No DHD prior to redeye flight segment on allocated sequences.
- 2:00 hours pay, no credit for sequences that release between 0000-0159.
- Development of graduated premium scale:
- 50%, 75%, 100%
- Movement of pilot DFP only with pilot consent (no moveable DFP).
- Adjustments to reserve assignment system utilizing buckets and seniority.
- Company may not search or schedule reserve pilot to fly in the lineholder month.
- Reserves reassigned will be paid in accordance with the reassignment pay provisions.
- If a reserve pilot is scheduled into a DFP (no later than noon), the pilot will receive 5:15 pay/no credit (above guarantee) and the DFP must be restored within the current month; if the DFP cannot be restored (e.g., remainder of month consists of only DFPs), or the pilot elects to not have the DFP restored, the pilot will receive an additional 5:15 pay/no credit (above guarantee).
- DFP trading via TTS-like system with transparency and conditions.
- Long Call increased to 14 hours outside of DOTC.
- Sit rig to pay for all sit time, including due to delays, reassignments, and reserve assignments, for all block-in to block-out time in excess of 2:30
- ALV (Average Line Value) window reduced to 74-82 hours, with conditional flex up.
- Reassignments will pay 50% premium for segments in the current/first duty period of a reassignment and 100% premium of all segments in subsequent duty period until the pilot is returned to original sequence or domicile.
- Pilot shared sequences implemented at DOS.
- Sequence Protection, Recovery Obligation, and Replacement Flying improvements that increase pilot optionality.
- Adjustments and protections surrounding NB Split Duty Pairings.
- Min pay rig of 7:45
- Max 2 flight segments (1 outbound, 1 inbound)
- Max total scheduled block time: 4:15
- Check Pilots
- 6.0-hour min day including schoolhouse work.
- 20% override for all X-Type schoolhouse work.
- 15-day standard month (Company can schedule up to 17): 16th day and greater at overtime (additional 2.5 hours/day above 15 days).
- X & L Type CKP paid 12th year pay for what can hold in 4-part bid status.
- Create Line Check Pilot (LCP) position.
- LCP bid with PBS
- 25% override pay for all Flight Standards work performed.
- Create Instructor Pilot (IP) position.
- IP paid highest bid status can hold capped at 12th year WB FO.
- 15% override pay for IP work performed.
- Minimum of 4 vacancy bid awards annually.
- Long Term Disability (LTD):
- New LTD
- Monthly Benefit: 50% of Pre-Disability Earnings, no cap, fully pensionable.
- Removal of all offsets.
- Reduce elimination period from 90 days to 60 days.
- Imputed Income Option: annual election would allow LTD benefits to be “tax-free.”
- Improvements to Existing LTD Plans
- Increase monthly benefit by 30%.
- Remove ALL remaining offsets.
- Pilot on LTD and employed by AA as a Sim-P may continue to receive current LTD benefit.
- Life insurance increase to $500,000.
- FAA first Class Medical reimbursement of up to $278 or $457 with EKG.
- New LTD
#82
APA email
Agreement in Principle: Summarized Highlights
Fellow Pilots,On May 18, 2023, APA and American Airlines successfully negotiated agreements in principle on several remaining economic items, including pay rates. These agreements complement previously agreed-to items, including enhanced work rules and scheduling improvements that focus on quality of life and operational integrity. We will publish a high-level summary and provide more details in the coming days.
However, we understand that the desire for details is shared by all as we move forward with this process. To provide some of those details, we offer the following selected highlights addressed in this agreement. The below bullet points do not fully detail the changes to the agreement, are not all inclusive, and are for informational purposes only.
Summarized Highlights
Note: All “May 2” dates are based on an Aug. 1, 2023, ratification that will change if the agreement is not ratified Aug. 1.
- Duration – 4 years; Amendable date: Aug. 1, 2027
- Back Pay – (based on eligible earnings)
- 2020: 4%
- 2021: 4%
- 2022: 14%
- 2023: ~21% (3 months preceding DOS (thus effective May 2, 2023)
- Pay rates that meet or exceed Delta pay rates:
- (DOS ~21% increase)
- May 2, 2024: 5%
- May 2, 2025: 4%
- May 2, 2026: 4%
- May 2, 2027: 3% Amendable year raise
- Increase of 401(k) contributions increase to:
- 17% on May 2, 2024
- 18% on May 2, 2026
- Realign pay step date (pay longevity) to date of hire for all pilots who have not reached 12th year pay.
- Establish a Market Based Cash Balance Plan.
- Sick sell-back – or – Retiree Health Reimbursement Arrangement (RHRA) option for pilots at retirement at 66% of the value of accrued sick bank (up to $200,000).
- Vacation year 2024/2025 and beyond: 4:35 pay per day.
- Vacation year 2025/2026 and beyond: 4:00 credit per day.
- Increase of vacation accrual to 35 days at 19 years of service.
- Long-haul narrowbody (NB) override: CA $8.00/FO $6.00 on all NB flying to Europe, South America (south of the equator), and Hawaii.
- International Override: CA $6.50/FO $4.50 (includes Canada).
- Improved profit sharing to the Delta formula (10% up to $2.5B pre-tax profit, 20% for anything above).
- Increase training pay to 5:00 per day.
- Increase (long course) training pay for Initial, Upgrade, Transition to 3:05 per day.
- Holiday pay for nine (9) holidays of an additional 5:15 for each designated holiday duty touches (includes simulator training, DHD’s to/from training, OE, and CKP).
- Deadhead (DHD) pays greater of scheduled or actual if pilot on aircraft.
- Jumpseat: Captain may coordinate to account for expected taxi fuel burn to offset jumpseat occupant.
- Pairing Construction Limits:
- 1- and 2-day pairings: minimum of 20%
- 4-day pairings: average maximum of 38% in a rolling 12-month period, max 43% in any month
- 5-day pairings: average max of 8% in a rolling 12-month period, max of 10% in any month
- Elimination of ACARS use for scheduling purposes.
- Newly developed pilot-centric Electronic Communication System (ECS).
- No DHD prior to redeye flight segment on allocated sequences.
- 2:00 hours pay, no credit for sequences that release between 0000-0159.
- Development of graduated premium scale:
- 50%, 75%, 100%
- Movement of pilot DFP only with pilot consent (no moveable DFP).
- Adjustments to reserve assignment system utilizing buckets and seniority.
- Company may not search or schedule reserve pilot to fly in the lineholder month.
- Reserves reassigned will be paid in accordance with the reassignment pay provisions.
- If a reserve pilot is scheduled into a DFP (no later than noon), the pilot will receive 5:15 pay/no credit (above guarantee) and the DFP must be restored within the current month; if the DFP cannot be restored (e.g., remainder of month consists of only DFPs), or the pilot elects to not have the DFP restored, the pilot will receive an additional 5:15 pay/no credit (above guarantee).
- DFP trading via TTS-like system with transparency and conditions.
- Long Call increased to 14 hours outside of DOTC.
- Sit rig to pay for all sit time, including due to delays, reassignments, and reserve assignments, for all block-in to block-out time in excess of 2:30
- ALV (Average Line Value) window reduced to 74-82 hours, with conditional flex up.
- Reassignments will pay 50% premium for segments in the current/first duty period of a reassignment and 100% premium of all segments in subsequent duty period until the pilot is returned to original sequence or domicile.
- Pilot shared sequences implemented at DOS.
- Sequence Protection, Recovery Obligation, and Replacement Flying improvements that increase pilot optionality.
- Adjustments and protections surrounding NB Split Duty Pairings.
- Min pay rig of 7:45
- Max 2 flight segments (1 outbound, 1 inbound)
- Max total scheduled block time: 4:15
- Check Pilots
- 6.0-hour min day including schoolhouse work.
- 20% override for all X-Type schoolhouse work.
- 15-day standard month (Company can schedule up to 17): 16th day and greater at overtime (additional 2.5 hours/day above 15 days).
- X & L Type CKP paid 12th year pay for what can hold in 4-part bid status.
- Create Line Check Pilot (LCP) position.
- LCP bid with PBS
- 25% override pay for all Flight Standards work performed.
- Create Instructor Pilot (IP) position.
- IP paid highest bid status can hold capped at 12th year WB FO.
- 15% override pay for IP work performed.
- Minimum of 4 vacancy bid awards annually.
- Long Term Disability (LTD):
- New LTD
- Monthly Benefit: 50% of Pre-Disability Earnings, no cap, fully pensionable.
- Removal of all offsets.
- Reduce elimination period from 90 days to 60 days.
- Imputed Income Option: annual election would allow LTD benefits to be “tax-free.”
- Improvements to Existing LTD Plans
- Increase monthly benefit by 30%.
- Remove ALL remaining offsets.
- Pilot on LTD and employed by AA as a Sim-P may continue to receive current LTD benefit.
- Life insurance increase to $500,000.
- FAA first Class Medical reimbursement of up to $278 or $457 with EKG.
- New LTD
The Negotiating Committee will continue to draft full contractual language that will be presented to the Board of Directors as a proposed tentative agreement (TA). The Board of Directors will then deliberate and decide whether to forward the proposed TA to the membership for ratification.
#83
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 1,318
Agreement in Principle: Summarized Highlights
Fellow Pilots,On May 18, 2023, APA and American Airlines successfully negotiated agreements in principle on several remaining economic items, including pay rates. These agreements complement previously agreed-to items, including enhanced work rules and scheduling improvements that focus on quality of life and operational integrity. We will publish a high-level summary and provide more details in the coming days.
However, we understand that the desire for details is shared by all as we move forward with this process. To provide some of those details, we offer the following selected highlights addressed in this agreement. The below bullet points do not fully detail the changes to the agreement, are not all inclusive, and are for informational purposes only.
Summarized Highlights
Note: All “May 2” dates are based on an Aug. 1, 2023, ratification that will change if the agreement is not ratified Aug. 1.
- Duration – 4 years; Amendable date: Aug. 1, 2027
- Back Pay – (based on eligible earnings)
- 2020: 4%
- 2021: 4%
- 2022: 14%
- 2023: ~21% (3 months preceding DOS (thus effective May 2, 2023)
- Pay rates that meet or exceed Delta pay rates:
- (DOS ~21% increase)
- May 2, 2024: 5%
- May 2, 2025: 4%
- May 2, 2026: 4%
- May 2, 2027: 3% Amendable year raise
- Increase of 401(k) contributions increase to:
- 17% on May 2, 2024
- 18% on May 2, 2026
- Realign pay step date (pay longevity) to date of hire for all pilots who have not reached 12th year pay.
- Establish a Market Based Cash Balance Plan.
- Sick sell-back – or – Retiree Health Reimbursement Arrangement (RHRA) option for pilots at retirement at 66% of the value of accrued sick bank (up to $200,000).
- Vacation year 2024/2025 and beyond: 4:35 pay per day.
- Vacation year 2025/2026 and beyond: 4:00 credit per day.
- Increase of vacation accrual to 35 days at 19 years of service.
- Long-haul narrowbody (NB) override: CA $8.00/FO $6.00 on all NB flying to Europe, South America (south of the equator), and Hawaii.
- International Override: CA $6.50/FO $4.50 (includes Canada).
- Improved profit sharing to the Delta formula (10% up to $2.5B pre-tax profit, 20% for anything above).
- Increase training pay to 5:00 per day.
- Increase (long course) training pay for Initial, Upgrade, Transition to 3:05 per day.
- Holiday pay for nine (9) holidays of an additional 5:15 for each designated holiday duty touches (includes simulator training, DHD’s to/from training, OE, and CKP).
- Deadhead (DHD) pays greater of scheduled or actual if pilot on aircraft.
- Jumpseat: Captain may coordinate to account for expected taxi fuel burn to offset jumpseat occupant.
- Pairing Construction Limits:
- 1- and 2-day pairings: minimum of 20%
- 4-day pairings: average maximum of 38% in a rolling 12-month period, max 43% in any month
- 5-day pairings: average max of 8% in a rolling 12-month period, max of 10% in any month
- Elimination of ACARS use for scheduling purposes.
- Newly developed pilot-centric Electronic Communication System (ECS).
- No DHD prior to redeye flight segment on allocated sequences.
- 2:00 hours pay, no credit for sequences that release between 0000-0159.
- Development of graduated premium scale:
- 50%, 75%, 100%
- Movement of pilot DFP only with pilot consent (no moveable DFP).
- Adjustments to reserve assignment system utilizing buckets and seniority.
- Company may not search or schedule reserve pilot to fly in the lineholder month.
- Reserves reassigned will be paid in accordance with the reassignment pay provisions.
- If a reserve pilot is scheduled into a DFP (no later than noon), the pilot will receive 5:15 pay/no credit (above guarantee) and the DFP must be restored within the current month; if the DFP cannot be restored (e.g., remainder of month consists of only DFPs), or the pilot elects to not have the DFP restored, the pilot will receive an additional 5:15 pay/no credit (above guarantee).
- DFP trading via TTS-like system with transparency and conditions.
- Long Call increased to 14 hours outside of DOTC.
- Sit rig to pay for all sit time, including due to delays, reassignments, and reserve assignments, for all block-in to block-out time in excess of 2:30
- ALV (Average Line Value) window reduced to 74-82 hours, with conditional flex up.
- Reassignments will pay 50% premium for segments in the current/first duty period of a reassignment and 100% premium of all segments in subsequent duty period until the pilot is returned to original sequence or domicile.
- Pilot shared sequences implemented at DOS.
- Sequence Protection, Recovery Obligation, and Replacement Flying improvements that increase pilot optionality.
- Adjustments and protections surrounding NB Split Duty Pairings.
- Min pay rig of 7:45
- Max 2 flight segments (1 outbound, 1 inbound)
- Max total scheduled block time: 4:15
- Check Pilots
- 6.0-hour min day including schoolhouse work.
- 20% override for all X-Type schoolhouse work.
- 15-day standard month (Company can schedule up to 17): 16th day and greater at overtime (additional 2.5 hours/day above 15 days).
- X & L Type CKP paid 12th year pay for what can hold in 4-part bid status.
- Create Line Check Pilot (LCP) position.
- LCP bid with PBS
- 25% override pay for all Flight Standards work performed.
- Create Instructor Pilot (IP) position.
- IP paid highest bid status can hold capped at 12th year WB FO.
- 15% override pay for IP work performed.
- Minimum of 4 vacancy bid awards annually.
- Long Term Disability (LTD):
- New LTD
- Monthly Benefit: 50% of Pre-Disability Earnings, no cap, fully pensionable.
- Removal of all offsets.
- Reduce elimination period from 90 days to 60 days.
- Imputed Income Option: annual election would allow LTD benefits to be “tax-free.”
- Improvements to Existing LTD Plans
- Increase monthly benefit by 30%.
- Remove ALL remaining offsets.
- Pilot on LTD and employed by AA as a Sim-P may continue to receive current LTD benefit.
- Life insurance increase to $500,000.
- FAA first Class Medical reimbursement of up to $278 or $457 with EKG.
- New LTD
The Negotiating Committee will continue to draft full contractual language that will be presented to the Board of Directors as a proposed tentative agreement (TA). The Board of Directors will then deliberate and decide whether to forward the proposed TA to the membership for ratification.
50% premium for reassignment flying in the current duty period. 100% override for subsequent duty periods until returned to original sequence. This applies to reserves too and the override goes above guarantee.
Sequence distribution. Minimum 20% will be 1-2 days trip. 4 days max 38% on a yearly bases. And 5 days to a max of 8%. I like that.
35 vacation days at year 19. Vacation day pays 4:35.
Delta profit sharing and a 3% pay bump at the amendable date.
international pay now includes Canada. Narrow body long haul override includes Europe, South of the Equator and HI. So a 737/320 Captain flying to say GYE or LIM will get a $14.50 override. Anything to Hawaii gets a $8.00 over ride. It’s not a separate pay rate for the XLR but dare I say it’s better?
Last edited by El Peso; 05-20-2023 at 05:36 PM.
#84
Several items that jump out at me:
50% premium for reassignment flying in the current duty period. 100% override for subsequent duty periods until returned to original sequence. It’s not mentioned here but this applys to reserves too and the override goes above guarantee.
Sequence distribution. Minimum 20% will be 1-2 days trip. 4 days max 38% on a yearly bases. And 5 days to a max of 8%. I like that.
35 vacation days at year 19. Vacation day pays 4:35.
Delta profit sharing and a 3% pay bump at the amendable date.
50% premium for reassignment flying in the current duty period. 100% override for subsequent duty periods until returned to original sequence. It’s not mentioned here but this applys to reserves too and the override goes above guarantee.
Sequence distribution. Minimum 20% will be 1-2 days trip. 4 days max 38% on a yearly bases. And 5 days to a max of 8%. I like that.
35 vacation days at year 19. Vacation day pays 4:35.
Delta profit sharing and a 3% pay bump at the amendable date.
- Pairing Construction Limits:
- 1- and 2-day pairings: minimum of 20%
- 4-day pairings: average maximum of 38% in a rolling 12-month period, max 43% in any month
- 5-day pairings: average max of 8% in a rolling 12-month period, max of 10% in any month
#85
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,497
I'm gonna need Facebook or The Line to tell me whether this is a good deal or not.
#88
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2019
Posts: 314
The reserve bucket system is gonna give me Vietnam flashbacks to Debbie telling me I'm the only person in the two day bucket. Trash.
#89
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 210
So how’s the back pay work for Jan 1, 2023-May 1, 2023. Is it’s 14%? And then May 2 and on is 21%?
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