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If you’re too junior to never fly with Pass All, you can try to bid for later RAPs (preferably 1000+). You’re more likely gonna be the only QLA person in your bucket for late trips, but importantly also the next bucket down. Keep Pass All on and set up APA notifications for trips that end >2200 on your second-to-last day or have a trailing deadhead on your last day. If something pops up, turn PA off and try to snipe that trip.
If your DB ends after 2200 on your second-to-last day, more than likely CS will leave you as LC following rest, which ends after the 1000 auto-release. It’s not a foolproof technique, but of all the techniques out there, it is definitely one of them. If you’re gonna get used on reserve, might as well try to save a day on the backside. |
Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 3919603)
Another thing to add is to try to bid for 4 day blocks or less. Under the old system, bidding 6 days was advantageous, as you rarely got called on the extra two days. Now, since flight time is rarely a factor, you don’t want to risk getting a 4 day followed by a 2 day.
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Originally Posted by ohaiyo
(Post 3919707)
Wouldn't 7 days be advantageous to force a 30/168 issue?
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Originally Posted by ohaiyo
(Post 3919707)
Wouldn't 7 days be advantageous to force a 30/168 issue?
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Originally Posted by Werjower
(Post 3919566)
Side note:
I'm just gonna go out and say that I've only called fatigued one time here and my fatigue call was deemed non operational and not paid, despite everything about it being operational. I even followed union guidance, had my report proofread and greenlit by the union, and didn't include anything but facts, yet still not paid. Definitely miffed about it, and sent a sound off and e-mail to local reps. Heard nothing. Others mileage may vary, definitely don't fly fatigued, but it's not a get out of jail free (with pay) card. |
Originally Posted by countsk
(Post 3919727)
I'm 2 for 3 in three years. All mid-sequence and all reviewed by APA. The one non-operational was a surprise as I thought it was my strongest. 1500 RAP on a Friday. Called in for a late report 3 day that night. Roughly a 30 hour layover. 0300 wake up on Sunday. Couldn't reverse my sleep pattern to support a 1500 RAP on Friday to a 0300 wake up on Sunday. I'd done it successfully in the past but couldn't swing it this one time. Noted in my report this wouldn't have been legal during a combat deployment without a General Officer waiver. Good to go in the 121 world I guess. My two operational/paid calls involved hotel issues.
Last day was supposed to be 3 legs, with a nice victory lap, got home and fatigued out. Cited the 2 consecutive min-rest overnights and circadian swap and it was deemed operational. Reading these, I'm curious if its more on who reviews it than what you write. |
“If your DB ends after 2200 on your second-to-last day, more than likely CS will leave you as LC following rest, which ends after the 1000 auto-release.
It’s not a foolproof technique” It is though actually. Your last day of SC the latest you can be assigned a RAP is 1000, so you have to be converted to LC and you’re already auto released since you don’t start LC prior to 1000. |
Originally Posted by AXNKAA
(Post 3919762)
“If your DB ends after 2200 on your second-to-last day, more than likely CS will leave you as LC following rest, which ends after the 1000 auto-release.
It’s not a foolproof technique” It is though actually. Your last day of SC the latest you can be assigned a RAP is 1000, so you have to be converted to LC and you’re already auto released since you don’t start LC prior to 1000. |
Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
(Post 3916442)
Reserve rules got a lot worse for those junior last contract cycle. Prepare for the worst
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Originally Posted by AVSkate
(Post 3919790)
Are there any commuter protections at AA? For example if reserve starts at 1000, and you attempt to commute in the same morning but don’t get a seat are you protected?
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