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Old 11-05-2025 | 05:05 AM
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lol this thread only made it 3 posts before getting completely derailed into pointless bickering about AI.
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Old 11-05-2025 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DogPit
When does ATC finish with its “Negtgen” upgrade based on 80s technology?
More of a reflection on the Government as a whole, versus advancements in technology.
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Old 11-05-2025 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Werjower
lol this thread only made it 3 posts before getting completely derailed into pointless bickering about AI.
Well, it's not the original topic really had anything to 'discuss'.
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Old 11-05-2025 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
Rumored to be a 4% cut which is what UAL cut last year and what they are supposed to be cutting this year; difference is AA is layoffs and UAL was attrition (according to an article I stumbled on)

In the end, the AI machine will be replacing tons of jobs today, tomorow and the future. Our own jobs will one day be replaced by AI.
Some of the AA positions could special assignment jobs filled by union people who go back to their primary unionized work.

If 4% of chief pilot jobs get cut no one hits the street, same in other departments.

Does the EFB manager/director really need be CA qualified? They didn’t just switch over and need a pilot perspective to put out fires.

The other labor groups likely have positions promoted from the rank and file that can just be eliminated.
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Old 11-05-2025 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by OpieTaylor
Some of the AA positions could special assignment jobs filled by union people who go back to their primary unionized work.

If 4% of chief pilot jobs get cut no one hits the street, same in other departments.

Does the EFB manager/director really need be CA qualified? They didn’t just switch over and need a pilot perspective to put out fires.

I agree, but where would all the ladder climbers and those who aren't about actually flying go? Perhaps being a "check pilot" wouldn't be prestigious enough for them?
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Old 11-05-2025 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
That's a bit of hyperbole. I saw a Waymo delivery robot stuck in a ditch last week; we will one day be replaced but the fact we have jobs today is not because the FAA says so.
Difficult to see total replacement, but one can expect AI creating the window for, and the political pressure for, single pilot ops.
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Old 11-05-2025 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Iwokeup thisway
My son has a MSEE and has been relating some scary tales to me regarding AI.

Job interviews for a remote job at his company that were held via video-conference, have been postponed in favor of in-person. (I’m just a 63 year-old dumb seat jockey so forgive my ignorance). AI images of a candidate showed up to the video interview. He said it was extremely difficult for HR and the interviewer to distinguish from real, the AI (chatbot?) gave the answers to the interviewer’s questions. My son’s team found out somehow after the “person” was hired that the work was actually being performed by an overseas company.

A similar situation occurred when an actual worker showed up in person for training after being hired. The guy who interviewed the worker didn’t recognize her. The interviewer later reviewed the video interview and confirmed it wasn’t the same woman. When confronted, the worker stated she was the voice behind the AI generated image appearing on the video. Apparently she wanted to enhance her looks in order to get the job.

Another example my son cited were newly hired graduates who use AI almost exclusively for problem solving and coding programs. They put so much reliance upon the AI results that few bother to validate the AI responses. After several expensive errors, a new job category of AI validators had to be created to check the answers.

Sorry for the long answer, but I was completely unaware that AI was so prevalent in society. Eventually it will get figured out, but I think I’ll be long retired before HAL will be sitting in my seat.
AI works off of incomprehensible levels of information/data.
This amount of information that now can be analyzed, such that patterns are detectable, can be the source of levels of power and control that until now was fantasy.

From a side comment in an essay on globalization:
"the job losses and restructuring that will come from AI will make what happened from globalization a mere footnote"

AI, while not conscious, is intelligent. It can, and already does, make independent decisions. Some of it is smarter than us by many, many magnitudes.
I have read that even the deep dive computer theorists are unable to explain exactly how advanced AI works. (kind of like a fuel control unit /s)

Short of powering down the world's electric grid (which AI would attempt to thwart), advanced AI cannot be "unplugged". Like people networks, it is now everywhere,in computer networks/clouds etc.

Quantum computers are coming.
Can you imagine AI and Quantums's children?

Perhaps we will find that higher intelligence is an evolutionary dead-end.
(ala Bostrom's "maximize paper clip production")

The different paths AI can lead us on are almost infinite.
It will take both wisdom and political pragmatism to choose somewhat safe roads.









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Old 11-05-2025 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
More of a reflection on the Government as a whole, versus advancements in technology.
And they still can’t get it done, which is my point.
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Old 11-08-2025 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxQ
AI works off of incomprehensible levels of information/data.
This amount of information that now can be analyzed, such that patterns are detectable, can be the source of levels of power and control that until now was fantasy.

From a side comment in an essay on globalization:
"the job losses and restructuring that will come from AI will make what happened from globalization a mere footnote"

AI, while not conscious, is intelligent. It can, and already does, make independent decisions. Some of it is smarter than us by many, many magnitudes.
I have read that even the deep dive computer theorists are unable to explain exactly how advanced AI works. (kind of like a fuel control unit /s)

Short of powering down the world's electric grid (which AI would attempt to thwart), advanced AI cannot be "unplugged". Like people networks, it is now everywhere,in computer networks/clouds etc.

Quantum computers are coming.
Can you imagine AI and Quantums's children?

Perhaps we will find that higher intelligence is an evolutionary dead-end.
(ala Bostrom's "maximize paper clip production")

The different paths AI can lead us on are almost infinite.
It will take both wisdom and political pragmatism to choose somewhat safe roads.
Lately, I've been considering allowing AI to take over for the government. Seems like better governance would result.
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Old 11-09-2025 | 06:31 AM
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Unrelated question.

why is November 30th marked as Holiday Pay? Not complaining, just curious which holiday that is?
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