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Old 12-28-2025 | 07:09 PM
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American Shifts for Smoother Schedules at DFW

When every hour has a bank of departing flights is an airport really still running with a banked schedule?

DFW operates nine departure banks today, covering departures from 5a to 11p. Starting next spring the carrier will shift to 13 departure banks across the same timeframe.

A traveler today might connect at DFW, arriving in a wave that touches down just after 9a. Assuming everything goes well, they pass in and out of the terminal in under an hour. It is a massive flow of people, and it usually mostly works. But it is not easy, nor is recovery when something goes awry.

The old schedule has a mind-boggling 110 departures scheduled in the 9am hour and a similar number of arrivals. That drops to 52 in the new plan. At the same time, previously underutilized hours (11a, 1p, 3p, 5p, 9p) with fewer than a dozen scheduled departures will now each see more than 40 flights under the new schedule.

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They swore they'd never do this again lol.
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Old 12-29-2025 | 01:59 AM
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They swore they'd never do this again lol.
They also swore they'd never lose money again.
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Old 12-29-2025 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
They swore they'd never do this again lol.
How did it work out last time?

More banks spread out. Does this mean more redeyes and ODANs for DFW bubbas?
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Old 12-29-2025 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
How did it work out last time?

More banks spread out. Does this mean more redeyes and ODANs for DFW bubbas?
It means more pay, fewer MICs, fewer lost bags. Better for pilots, better for passengers. Costs the company money in the short-term. Finally some investment in the future, it's about time.
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Old 12-29-2025 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by WiFly
It means more pay, fewer MICs, fewer lost bags. Better for pilots, better for passengers. Costs the company money in the short-term. Finally some investment in the future, it's about time.
Znotins did this at IAH when he was here. The reliability of the hub shot up and the airport operations team took the credit. It resulted in a lot of lost revenue though and the recovery post Covid resulted in more traditional banks being added as passenger traffic warranted. I guess my point here is the success that will follow this strategy will depend on the metric chosen to highlight. From the pilot perspective, I believe you will see it as a positive.
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Old 12-29-2025 | 09:42 AM
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Znotins did this at IAH when he was here. The reliability of the hub shot up and the airport operations team took the credit. It resulted in a lot of lost revenue though and the recovery post Covid resulted in more traditional banks being added as passenger traffic warranted. I guess my point here is the success that will follow this strategy will depend on the metric chosen to highlight. From the pilot perspective, I believe you will see it as a positive.
The revenue benefit will return in the medium-long term, at least in theory. It's part of creating a better customer experience. Hopefully they're serious about this and follow through for the long-term benefit. Instead of chickening out and going back to the same losing strategy that's been tried and failed already.
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Old 12-29-2025 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by WiFly
It means more pay, fewer MICs, fewer lost bags. Better for pilots, better for passengers. Costs the company money in the short-term. Finally some investment in the future, it's about time.
Thanks for the insight! I agree; stoked to see more moves to make us better, more competitive, more profitable.
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Old 12-29-2025 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
How did it work out last time?

More banks spread out. Does this mean more redeyes and ODANs for DFW bubbas?

It worked awesome. When they went back to the banks several years ago, it was borderline dangerous. You could hear the FTW Center controllers getting overwhelmed with vectors and speed changes. It was also a mess on the ground.

Not my monkeys anymore but less bunched up DFW traffic can only help when I fly into there or the adjacent airports.

ETA: It’s not more banks, it’s continuous flow at a manageable rate.
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Old 12-29-2025 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by WiFly
It means more pay, fewer MICs, fewer lost bags. Better for pilots, better for passengers. Costs the company money in the short-term. Finally some investment in the future, it's about time.
Just out of genuine curiosity: how does it cost money in the short term?
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Old 12-29-2025 | 04:21 PM
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ETA: It’s not more banks, it’s continuous flow at a manageable rate.
Technically it is more banks, increasing from 9 to 13. But yes it smooths out the flow.

Originally Posted by BrazilBusDriver
Just out of genuine curiosity: how does it cost money in the short term?
In the short term it increases crew pay, reduces aircraft utilization efficiency, and prevents the company from squeezing revenue capture out of selling unrealistic connections.

In the medium/long term it improves reliability, customer experience, and mishandled bag rate.
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