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Old 11-29-2011 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
The court motions are not on line yet on the Southern District website.
Did AMR's filing include a motion to stop lump sum pension pay outs?
They can do that if the fund threatens to fall below a certain liquidity level. That's what Delta did except there was a delay after the bankruptcy filing.

I expect a lot of pilots will put in their notice to retire effective Dec 1st.
This may be the last chance to get at those lump sums.

A lot of guys now have only 2 days to make a huge life decision.
I was wondering the same thing. Is it possible the company did this TODAY as opposed to December 1st to prevent another big number of retirements and therefore lump sum payments? Or do the pilots still have the option up to December 1st?

Just curious about the timing of this filing.
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Old 11-29-2011 | 05:57 AM
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From what I understand they still have time to cash out.
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Old 11-29-2011 | 06:00 AM
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just gotta wait n see now. hope there is something to go back to. one things for sure, no pup bonus for a while.
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Old 11-29-2011 | 06:02 AM
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American Airlines May Trim Flight Schedule Amid AMR?s Bankruptcy Cost Cuts - Bloomberg

American Airlines, planning to continue normal operations during parent AMR Corp. (AMR)’s bankruptcy, will probably cut some flights in the future, the chief executive officer said.

The reductions, along with job cuts, are likely as the airline seeks to reduce expenses, Chief Executive Officer Thomas Horton said on a conference call.
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Old 11-29-2011 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dumbfounded
I was speaking to the "legitimate contender" comment.

Yep, I'll give ya that one...maybe a better choice of words would be in order...but I haven't had my morning beer yet.
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Old 11-29-2011 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot
Maybe they'll bring Bob Crandall back to the helm.
He's being interviewed by CNBC

He blames the labor unions, specifically the pilots.
Competitors had too much of a cost advantage with bankruptcy-negotiated labor contracts. (According to him)

CNBC Commentator,
"Do you think this will get the pilot's attention?"
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Old 11-29-2011 | 06:06 AM
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Trading opened at 23 cents...
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Old 11-29-2011 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
It's not a pre-packaged BK either (according to CNBC). This doesn't bode well for the creditors I wouldn't think. Sounds like there is none of the DIP financing either that the rest of us had. Anybody got any ideas how this will affect things?
There are signs that Arpey is a "true believer" who had the inclination to pay American's bills. His board tried a spin off of Eagle before realizing that promoting an IPO in front of a pre-planned bankruptcy would likely land someone in jail. Logical disconnects like this suggest that American Management was doing a poor job of gaming the system.

Bankruptcy will help American while harming its competitors. Despite some competitors licking their chops to bite (by buying into) some part of American's network, what will happen is that the competitors' lending costs will increase while American's will decrease.

Expect American to follow the US Air / United / Delta / NWA model in less than 12 months.

American is NOT looking to merge. CNBC is calling for a trans border merger, but it is illegal under current law. American has a large enough network to compete with American and UCAL.
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Old 11-29-2011 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
He's being interviewed by CNBC

He blames the labor unions, specifically the pilots.
Competitors had too much of a cost advantage with bankruptcy-negotiated labor contracts. (According to him)
Classic right wing fascist corporate monkey.
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Old 11-29-2011 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Cheddar
Trading opened at 23 cents...
Might increase on Shorts covering their positions, but someone would have to be a real sharp shooter to nail a profit on a stock going to zero.
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