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Old 01-05-2013 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew
Different merger, NEW TA= Legitimate Union Purpose...Any questions??
NIC=DOA..
Best of luck to you in that regard as I see you are rubbing budda's belly and wishing hard. Legitimate union purpose is to disregard a binding arbitration all because you dont like it??? No young man thats not how the system works. Here let me educate you again as to the courts statement. A RULING BY A NEUTRAL THIRD PARTY IS POWERFUL EVIDENCE OF A FAIR PROCESS!!!
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Now let me know if you still have comprehension issues and I will again school you. I know you hope you cna continue to steal but certainly every arbitrator is aware of the east's antics. Nic is the only list LCC has and absent the 9th OR the new merged company gambling on getting sued you can rest assured that the 3 way is company APA and USCABA. Keeping wishing as you will need that anger for warmth later.

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Old 01-05-2013 | 11:45 AM
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It's amazing how some people have the MOU and AA/US SLI all figured out, without even seeing them. But, then again, nobody has been wrong on the US/AWA fight.

I think a lot of people that are at the far ends of this fight are going to be disappointed. If the merger happens. If not, we can go back to the regularly scheduled court TV.
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Old 01-05-2013 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
It's amazing how some people have the MOU and AA/US SLI all figured out, without even seeing them. But, then again, nobody has been wrong on the US/AWA fight.

I think a lot of people that are at the far ends of this fight are going to be disappointed. If the merger happens. If not, we can go back to the regularly scheduled court TV.
Only one side is at the far end, I think you know who it is. I don't claim to know how it will turn out but I can tell that losing some seniority is worth it if it gets rid of the east and their union forever. I know you think the nic. Is gone but like solver said it is part of your contract until modified, so you better hope this new MOU takes the nic. Out otherwise the next union inherits it just like usapa did. The apa touches the nic or doesn't use it, the west sues. MB specifically prohibits its application to prior mergers, I know you don't believe it but usapa forced the issue and proved for us the merger was complete. So how is MB retroactively applied to east and west? Even if you believe my thoughts have no merit, are the new arbitrators going to ignore Nicolaus work? I am not worried, I don't think the east being made an "example" by the arbitrators is out of the question.

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Old 01-05-2013 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Only one side is at the far end, I think you know who it is. I don't claim to know how it will turn out but I can tell that losing some seniority is worth it if it gets rid of the east and their union forever
One should not have to lose anything for proper representation. Usapa has and continues to fail to represent the west pilots. Lets face facts, it was never designed to. One look at their bylaw and it tells the story. There is ZERO oversight within usapa and they have taken away the ability to roll call, something rich in east history. This is was done for one reason and one reason only, because that roll call majority resides in Phoenix! They have set up an election system with this bogus run off for no other reason than to get a second bite at the apple in the event of voter loss. When that system fails and it DID, they just invalidate the election until they get the results they desire. Usapa is nothing short of criminals that really should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Union fraud here would no be that hard to prove. They have left a wonderful record of such deceit. The distant learning issue where only west pilots were made to pay while the east gets a pass. These are the sorts of things that need to be brought to the attention of the US attorney. Union fraud is a federal crime and several need to be placed in prison.

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Old 01-05-2013 | 01:49 PM
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Too much repetitive crap from a minority group.

It is easy imagine why so many LCC threads dye early.
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Old 01-05-2013 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
Too much repetitive crap from a minority group.

It is easy imagine why so many LCC threads dye early.
Yet you continue to read them! WHY?

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Old 01-05-2013 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver
Yet you continue to read them! WHY?

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Someone has to generate original thought Whiskey.
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Old 01-05-2013 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
Someone has to generate original thought Whiskey.
Ok fair enough

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Old 01-05-2013 | 03:26 PM
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IS it difficult to understand that this TA is a NEW TA therefore A NEW process will ensue...The previous TA, encompassing the AW/US merger never matured. NO CBA WAS PRODUCED!! Therefore this NEW TA will result in a whole new process. A 3 way SLI. Repeat after me...The Nic is DOA!!
The West can file injunctions and law suits till the cows come home. Any judge in the land will see that this NEW TA supersedes the previous one...Capiche??
"Legitimate Union Purpose"....Jdg. Silver..
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Old 01-05-2013 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew
IS it difficult to understand that this TA is a NEW TA therefore A NEW process will ensue...The previous TA, encompassing the AW/US merger never matured. NO CBA WAS PRODUCED!! Therefore this NEW TA will result in a whole new process. A 3 way SLI. Repeat after me...The Nic is DOA!!
The West can file injunctions and law suits till the cows come home. Any judge in the land will see that this NEW TA supersedes the previous one...Capiche??
Unless this MOU/ta specifically removes the nic. then the nic stays in our contract. You want to bet this ta does not remove the nic.?
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