Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver

One should not have to lose anything for proper representation. Usapa has and continues to fail to represent the west pilots. Lets face facts, it was never designed to. One look at their bylaw and it tells the story. There is ZERO oversight within usapa and they have taken away the ability to roll call, something rich in east history. This is was done for one reason and one reason only, because that roll call majority resides in Phoenix! They have set up an election system with this bogus run off for no other reason than to get a second bite at the apple in the event of voter loss. When that system fails and it DID, they just invalidate the election until they get the results they desire. Usapa is nothing short of criminals that really should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Union fraud here would no be that hard to prove. They have left a wonderful record of such deceit. The distant learning issue where only west pilots were made to pay while the east gets a pass. These are the sorts of things that need to be brought to the attention of the US attorney. Union fraud is a federal crime and several need to be placed in prison.

WD at AWA

Originally Posted by cactiboss

Unless this MOU/ta specifically removes the nic. then the nic stays in our contract. You want to bet this ta does not remove the nic.?

Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew

Your on!! We shall know soon enough.. The mechanisms for SLI will most likely be an integral part of this NEW MOU/TA... And this Sir, will be the last nail on the Nic coffin...

Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew

"Stays in OUR contract"????? What Contract?? The west has their cba and the east has theirs. The SLI was NEVER consummated due to lack of a common CBA. Now WE face a NEW merger, with a whole different set of circumstances. This requires a whole NEW TA...What is the basis for YOUR assumption??

Originally Posted by cactiboss

You forget two leonidas pilots negotiated this? How about the leonidas guys that were at the BPR and voted to send this out?

Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew

You forget that 9 other east BPR members also voted for this MOU..

Originally Posted by cactiboss

Jeez dude, the Nicolau is in both east and west contracts as modified by our ta. The Nicolau was accepted by Doug Parker and placed in our contracts.

Originally Posted by cactiboss

That should tell you what?

Originally Posted by LittleBoyBlew

Really...Last time I checked MY cba it only contained east pilot names and sen. #s. If the Nic is in fact in MY contract, wy are you not bidding east metal??