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Old 12-18-2013, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by CanoePilot View Post
I honestly hope the west forces it to go to arbitration. From what I've seen I don't feel USAPA will represent us third listers and I would so far as to say they probably wouldn't hesitate to throw us under the bus if they could make a deal with APA.
The west won't need to force an arbitration, the apa has already done it.
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:58 AM
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cactiboss,

Don't go saying that APA has forced an arbitration. Don't try to pull us into your situation. You guys get your stuff figured out, then we will get together and start trying to settle our integration issues. If we, APA and US Air pilots, cannot come to some agreement, then it will go to Bond McCaskill. Don't try and flame the fires against us. There will enough crap thrown around when we do begin the process that will be more than we can stand from both sides of the aisle.

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Old 12-18-2013, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss View Post
Mitch is a law student not an attorney. Mitch didn't want to be on the committee, he wants his lawyer (bob bush) to be on the committee. What Mitch and r57's stupid friend don't get is that there are things behind the scenes they aren't previe to, things that get you seats at tables etc.
Mitch has already graduated my friend as has Tania!!!

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Old 12-18-2013, 01:20 PM
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I know that I'm not privy to a lot of west stuff, but I've never understood the animosity towards Mitch. He has always seemed to be a west pilot advocate and very level headed. If the west is going to have separate representation, I'd feel better with someone he supported on the committee as it will affect us all.
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Old 12-18-2013, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by justfun View Post
cactiboss,

Don't go saying that APA has forced an arbitration. Don't try to pull us into your situation. You guys get your stuff figured out, then we will get together and start trying to settle our integration issues. If we, APA and US Air pilots, cannot come to some agreement, then it will go to Bond McCaskill. Don't try and flame the fires against us. There will enough crap thrown around when we do begin the process that will be more than we can stand from both sides of the aisle.

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*** are you talking about? The Apa has already said this is probably going to arbitration publicly and privately says it is definitely going to arbitration. Arbitration is part of MB so What fires are being flamed?
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Old 12-18-2013, 02:29 PM
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Maybe, he's tired of hearing you spout off like you are directing the process and know what's going to happen.

Are you going to pout if silver rules against you and your "group" gets uninvited to the meetings?
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Old 12-18-2013, 02:31 PM
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3rd listers. As of today the west has no more standing in the SLI than you do. I have a recommendation. Have someone try to attend the meeting in DC on Friday. If denied, you have all the rights of anyone else.
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Old 12-18-2013, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss View Post
*** are you talking about? The Apa has already said this is probably going to arbitration publicly and privately says it is definitely going to arbitration. Arbitration is part of MB so What fires are being flamed?
Actually, the APA believes a negotiated settlement is preferable to an arbitrated one.............at least that's what they're representing to their pilots.
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Old 12-18-2013, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay View Post
I know that I'm not privy to a lot of west stuff, but I've never understood the animosity towards Mitch. He has always seemed to be a west pilot advocate and very level headed. If the west is going to have separate representation, I'd feel better with someone he supported on the committee as it will affect us all.
Mitch was one of the few good eggs within ALPA when he was at Eagle. Management hated him, which says all one needs to know.
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Mitch was one of the few good eggs within ALPA when he was at Eagle. Management hated him, which says all one needs to know.
Says a lot. I think he is too pragmatic for east/west.
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