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12-18-2013, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Yeah, I guess that is why the most experienced west negotiators and the guys that brought you the Nic are in the aol committee
I like having Dotter and Payne in there as they are both well versed on the process and know the game. I just dont see this as you do as this major world series win by any means. If the east is not made to honor that arbitration and gets a second bite at the apple its a victory for them plain and simple. Now in my personal view I dont see that happening but thats not because the west has separate standing but rather the arbitration carries with it certain rights. Getting out of an arbitration is next to impossible
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12-18-2013, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
Cacti,
Here's the email entered into evidence in Addington II from one of the plantiffs about Mitch.
"I may be wrong here, but Mitch has no authority to represent the West pilot group. As I understand it, it takes only one West pilot to disagree with a redo of the Nic and a DFR will be on the table.
Mitch just can’t stand not having a title and not being in control. The xxxxxxx FPL xxxxxx of the ALPA days are getting antsy!
AC"
He is one of the team that "elected" the west merger committee. The committee that will represent the entire west group in the merger with one of the most powerful pilot unions in the nation. He says Mitch has no authority. As of today, what authority does AOL have? What liability does it have?
Between USAPA and this bunch the APA has to be laughing it's rear off!
Here's the email entered into evidence in Addington II from one of the plantiffs about Mitch.
"I may be wrong here, but Mitch has no authority to represent the West pilot group. As I understand it, it takes only one West pilot to disagree with a redo of the Nic and a DFR will be on the table.
Mitch just can’t stand not having a title and not being in control. The xxxxxxx FPL xxxxxx of the ALPA days are getting antsy!
AC"
He is one of the team that "elected" the west merger committee. The committee that will represent the entire west group in the merger with one of the most powerful pilot unions in the nation. He says Mitch has no authority. As of today, what authority does AOL have? What liability does it have?
Between USAPA and this bunch the APA has to be laughing it's rear off!
12-18-2013, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Everyone knows the east bafoons will shoot themselves in the foot in MB arbitration, so it is a big deal we have our own team to show the arbitrators what this scum has done.
12-18-2013, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
The smartest west pilot I know thinks that AOL will shoot itself in the foot and really wants Vasin on the committee.
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12-18-2013, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver
RELAX yourself and stop picking fights with the home team!! That is only a SMALL portion of the folks that worked long and hard on getting us to and thru that arbitration! David was NOT there, Eric was NOT there nor was that legal team.
I like having Dotter and Payne in there as they are both well versed on the process and know the game. I just dont see this as you do as this major world series win by any means. If the east is not made to honor that arbitration and gets a second bite at the apple its a victory for them plain and simple. Now in my personal view I dont see that happening but thats not because the west has separate standing but rather the arbitration carries with it certain rights. Getting out of an arbitration is next to impossible
WD at AWA
I like having Dotter and Payne in there as they are both well versed on the process and know the game. I just dont see this as you do as this major world series win by any means. If the east is not made to honor that arbitration and gets a second bite at the apple its a victory for them plain and simple. Now in my personal view I dont see that happening but thats not because the west has separate standing but rather the arbitration carries with it certain rights. Getting out of an arbitration is next to impossible
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12-18-2013, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver
Mitch Vasin is an extremely intelligent person and one that I would pick. He comes with tons of real union work experience and is an attorney. Now where I dont agree is the team shooting themselves in the foot. Russ Payne is what I would call wicked smart and Doug Dotter knows his way around the process of negotiations better than most care to admit. I will take ZERO away Braid and Eric as both are highly intelligent young men.
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I do share you opinion of Mitch. I'd feel better with him on your committee.
I don't know the rest.
12-18-2013, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
That shows me how stupid he is.
You just ignore anyone that doesn't see things just like you, as you are doing with WD.
12-18-2013, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver
Mitch Vasin is an extremely intelligent person and one that I would pick. He comes with tons of real union work experience and is an attorney. Now where I dont agree is the team shooting themselves in the foot. Russ Payne is what I would call wicked smart and Doug Dotter knows his way around the process of negotiations better than most care to admit. I will take ZERO away Braid and Eric as both are highly intelligent young men.
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