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Old 12-08-2013 | 01:08 PM
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Dire Wolves, give me shivers. Not as scary as Shoap's goat, but still......
Underestimate Shoap's goat at your own peril.
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Old 12-08-2013 | 04:56 PM
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Party - Countdown to Dec 9, 2013 7:59:59 AM in Dallas
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Old 12-08-2013 | 05:14 PM
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How many countdown timers have you guys had that have just imploded on themselves? Not one has been right YET.

ripe. not quite there yet. blow another 1.4 million...HAHA
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Old 12-08-2013 | 05:23 PM
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How many countdown timers have you guys had that have just imploded on themselves? Not one has been right YET.

ripe. not quite there yet. blow another 1.4 million...HAHA
No reading comprehension?
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West..._122_Order.pdf
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Old 12-08-2013 | 05:29 PM
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I find it hard to believe that Silver filed a judgment back in July, but we were still in court after that.

Can you show me Silver's final judgment?

You guys love the emotional response...


And I will bet. the 9th will take the case 10-1 if Silver rules against USAPA

Name the beer, Make it 12 to one. I'll buy you the 12pack, you only have to buy me one........
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Old 12-08-2013 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by crzipilot
I find it hard to believe that Silver filed a judgment back in July, but we were still in court after that.

Can you show me Silver's final judgment?

You guys love the emotional response...


And I will bet. the 9th will take the case 10-1 if Silver rules against USAPA

Name the beer, Make it 12 to one. I'll buy you the 12pack, you only have to buy me one........
Emotional? You simply don't grasp this case, you have anew contract early tomorrow morning, ripe.
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Old 12-08-2013 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by crzipilot
I find it hard to believe that Silver filed a judgment back in July, but we were still in court after that.

Can you show me Silver's final judgment?

You guys love the emotional response...


And I will bet. the 9th will take the case 10-1 if Silver rules against USAPA

Name the beer, Make it 12 to one. I'll buy you the 12pack, you only have to buy me one........
Remember in law the court of appeals doesn't just take cases because an appeal was filed. There has to be an issue(s) for which to appeal. The lower court erred in its decision. Normally one must post a bond of 125% but since no money is involved usapa got off for free the last time.

So if she rules against usapa what exactly are you appealing?

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Old 12-08-2013 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiskey Driver
Remember in law the court of appeals doesn't just take cases because an appeal was filed. There has to be an issue(s) for which to appeal. The lower court erred in its decision. Normally one must post a bond of 125% but since no money is involved usapa got off for free the last time.

So if she rules against usapa what exactly are you appealing?

WD at AWA

Actually I don't have a new contract tomorrow. I have a Memo, which states the pathway to that new contract. One of the first steps towards that contract is the Nullity of ALL PREVIOUS Agreements.

Hmmmmmm....what does that mean. That means, that both sides agree that all the prev. crap doesn't apply. That status quo does remain in effect until such times that they cancel out those previous agreements.


As to what are we going to appeal. Something the 9th likes to talk about. Ripeness. YOU can't use a crystal ball to determine what is going to happen to you in the future. Nothing has changed, so you don't know how you turn out.

I'm sure the 9th is warming up their paddle for those AZ district judges.....
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Old 12-08-2013 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by crzipilot
Actually I don't have a new contract tomorrow. I have a Memo, which states the pathway to that new contract. One of the first steps towards that contract is the Nullity of ALL PREVIOUS Agreements.

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You know better than Silver, Amr, usairways and apa?

The text of the MOU supports the position adopted by the West Pilots, US Airways,
17 and AMR: that it is a collective bargaining agreement. The MOU states that once the merger
18 is complete, the pilots currently at US Airways will, without any further ratification vote,
19 become subject to the terms of the AMR collective bargaining agreement.
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Old 12-08-2013 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by crzipilot
Actually I don't have a new contract tomorrow. I have a Memo, which states the pathway to that new contract. One of the first steps towards that contract is the Nullity of ALL PREVIOUS Agreements.

Hmmmmmm....what does that mean. That means, that both sides agree that all the prev. crap doesn't apply. That status quo does remain in effect until such times that they cancel out those previous agreements.


As to what are we going to appeal. Something the 9th likes to talk about. Ripeness. YOU can't use a crystal ball to determine what is going to happen to you in the future. Nothing has changed, so you don't know how you turn out.

I'm sure the 9th is warming up their paddle for those AZ district judges.....
I don't think that is going to fly but you never know. Lets take a look at this ripeness thing now. The MOU changed many of the provisions of both collective agreements but that's not what really makes this ripe. The ripeness came the minute you agreed to make those changes. Usapa is also going to have disclosure issues with 10H. So in essence much has changed since the 9th was concerned about ripeness.

Like I said I fully expect a resolution prior to the end of this year.

WD at AWA
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