"Mad" is your new fetish projection. You guys are a riot.

 

One need look no further than the posts you kids lay down and it becomes more than apparent. He was so busy celebrating that he forgot to really look behind the scenes to see what was happening. I am still waiting on the section or passage in the mou where it states that by signing this document west pilots agree to abandon their rights to the nic arbitration? Maybe you can help him, where is it?

WD at AWA

 

Implicit assumption again.... You want the Nic based on an implicit assumption. If you want the Nic you need a contract that affirms it's implementation. AOL whining hasn't cut it.

 

Did not ask you a thing about AOL nor did I ask you about implicit assumptions. What I did ask is where is this passage within the MOU that states the west abandoned the arbitration award? Can you provide it so that I may read it as well??

WD at AWA

 

You are correct you did not ask me about implicit assumptions.... You just want everyone to accept your premise (the implicit assumption) that an arbitration award can be implemented without a document mandating its use. If you want it to be used.. If you want a court to impose it... If you want a court to award damages against USAPA, APA, or DUI for abandoning the Nic, then you better show up with a document saying somebody, anybody must use the Nic.

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Lets try this again shall we? I did not ask that you or anyone for that matter accept anything regarding the premise that you yourself assume exists! I know your personal feelings regarding the TA and how you in the east thus far have been able to not honor your obligations. Be that as it may it still has yet to be shown by you or anyone else for that matter that the MOU contains wording that allows for the abandoning of the NIC for the west pilots.

I am more than willing to give you the benefit of the doubt in that you were unable to understand my request. I will ask it again, CAN YOU PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE IT STATES IN THE MOU THAT WEST PILOTS BY SIGNING HAVE AGREED TO ABANDON THE NIC AWARD???

WD at AWA

 

well the t/a states there must be a jcba between east and west to implement the Nic? Hasn't been one, nor will there be one.

MOU unfortunately changes the t/a and makes a JCBA between US/AA/APA/USAPA

No?

So what is the vehicle to implement the NIC? the jcba from the '07 T/A which is now null and void....

 

I think you misunderstand how this works. See you have been able to skate based solely on the fact that usapa has presented no contract and more importantly no list. Two courts have said the exact same thing (nothing to compare). Now in act 3 the final scene of usapa they have no choice but to advocate a position ie present a list or lists and it is there where the comparison will reside. See there is just no way around it this time. Present one list and if it places west pilots in a worse position that what was awarded they we go off to court. Present 2 list and that in and of itself is a worst position for the west so guess where we go? COURT you got it!

Now do you really think and I mean HONESTLY think APA is going to take up the usapa cause? Why even risk a court battle for which they have no dog in that fight. The only sure way to stay out of the courts is to demand that NIC award because to do otherwise means we go where??? TO COURT!

WD at AWA

 

You can shout but it changes nothing. You will always be the plaintiff with a burden to prove your claim.

You are the one proposing the Nic should be implemented. Give us one document that supports your proposal.

You are the one asserting that the Nic must be used. Give us one document that supports your assertion.

You are the one implying there will be liability if the Nic is not used. Give us one document proving the liability.

Just one.

Ask Marty. You have donated enough to him. He owes you that much.

 

"having a list" isn't the threshold for ripeness. Having a completed contract with a ratified list is the threshold for ripeness, as the 9th told you (and Silver ignored, to your great cost).

You are making arguments about mere ripeness but confuse that with proving unfair representation. You keep making the implicit assumption that USAPA (or anyone else) has any obligation to use the Nic.

Give us one document that shows you are not implicitly assuming USAPA must use the Nic, just like the dissent at the 9th.