New Hires in PHX
03-24-2014 | 01:45 PM
#103
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Really? Then why am I, second year third lister given East base, getting 1 day off less a month than new hirer given West, line bidding while West is PBS, use CATCREW while West uses Mistro(?), have a lower guarantee,.....it's not the same contract till we all are under the MTA/MOU. Someone recently asked USAPA reps why reserves were not getting the extra days off per the MOU yet. There response was because the company needs time to program the system and the capabilities are not there. So they can program FAR117, but not a day off....right. West has a much better contract then East and the MOU is better than East.....oddly only company improvements have been added to the system, but pilot improvements need time......thanks again USAPA.
03-24-2014 | 01:47 PM
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^^^^Source? I do not know about the class that started this past Monday, but the class before them ALL got PHL. The class before that a total of 4 got PHX. As far as I know, from my source in the PHX Training Dept., only those 4 so far. Newest class could be more, haven't asked him. If hired West it's West rules. East get East(awful) rules. That is until ALL the rules of the MOU/MTA go into effect
It a shame too, all the USAPA crap, causing lots of US Airways pilots to be stuck. Worst new hirer position.....lives in CLT and got last choice in class....PHX. While classes ahead of him PHX dwellers got PHL and CLT, but can not switch. It not just new hirers either, many people are stuck because of an ugly battle that needs to end.
It a shame too, all the USAPA crap, causing lots of US Airways pilots to be stuck. Worst new hirer position.....lives in CLT and got last choice in class....PHX. While classes ahead of him PHX dwellers got PHL and CLT, but can not switch. It not just new hirers either, many people are stuck because of an ugly battle that needs to end.
Pilot groups fight. They always have and always will. Groups were fighting when I got here and new groups will be fighting about something different when I retire. Sometimes it affects you sometimes it doesn't. It is what it is.
03-24-2014 | 01:52 PM
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Really? Then why am I, second year third lister given East base, getting 1 day off less a month than new hirer given West, line bidding while West is PBS, use CATCREW while West uses Mistro(?), have a lower guarantee,.....it's not the same contract till we all are under the MTA/MOU. Someone recently asked USAPA reps why reserves were not getting the extra days off per the MOU yet. There response was because the company needs time to program the system and the capabilities are not there. So they can program FAR117, but not a day off....right. West has a much better contract then East and the MOU is better than East.....oddly only company improvements have been added to the system, but pilot improvements need time......thanks again USAPA.
DUI isn't abiding by the contract and union pilots blame the union...
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03-24-2014 | 02:06 PM
#106
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I am blaming the "union" for not representing the pilots. Any person who has worked for someone knows that the company will do what's best for themselves first and drag out everything that helps the workers. I blame the company for well.....being a company, doing exactly what people expect. I blame the union for not finding a way to make the company follow the changes. You know set up and follow timelines. However, it is clear that the company and USAPA have their own ideas in what following timelines means. The reps that answered this guy who asked about MOU items not being implemented was very clear that the union is "working with and understanding of the company" during the transition. Problem is the only stuff that seems to be issue during the transition is worker related improvements.....thus the union is not representing its members. I've seen one email discuss the slow transition problems. However, it only addressed issues related to when pay starts with a full crew, ready to move airplane, and a non-crew related delay. A solution the company came up with.
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