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Old 05-08-2014 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Why are we a single union if we never merged? The fact you scumbags are absolutely terrified out of your minds for the west to show the arbitrators what you have done is very telling.
What exactly have we "done"...? Legal is legal. The West had their trial on the merits and they got zip, zero, nadda.

They were told about the risk by their lawyer at Wye River and they fired him, then poured money into another lawyer that tickled their ears, and he has been a total loss.

The West seems to have an implicit assumption that if they can just weasel their way into the MB arbitration then they will be able to persuade an arbitrator to award them "damages" for assumed "injustices" they failed to prove in court.

Enjoy your day. Really.
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Old 05-08-2014 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
What exactly have we "done"...? Legal is legal. The West had their trial on the merits and they got zip, zero, nadda.

They were told about the risk by their lawyer at Wye River and they fired him, then poured money into another lawyer that tickled their ears, and he has been a total loss.

The West seems to have an implicit assumption that if they can just weasel their way into the MB arbitration then they will be able to persuade an arbitrator to award them "damages" for assumed "injustices" they failed to prove in court.

Enjoy your day. Really.
Again, why are you terrified the west be given its own representation? Judge Silver couldn't contain her disdain for what special scum you boys are, u should read her ruling again.
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Old 05-08-2014 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Again, why are you terrified the west be given its own representation? Judge Silver couldn't contain her disdain for what special scum you boys are, u should read her ruling again.

If the West had a real lawyer he would caution them to limit their emotional attachment to implicit assumptions and to get busy with the facts and the law... but then they would move on, and he would have to find another way to pay for his kids college. Have a nice day. Really.
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Old 05-08-2014 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleTurtle
If the West had a real lawyer
Funny that the companies and apa's lawyers agree with the west. Maybe they aren't "real" either?
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Old 05-08-2014 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Funny that the companies and apa's lawyers agree with the west. Maybe they aren't "real" either?
I'll give credit to USAir's lawyers. They aren't relying on emotional clients, and they prevailed as defendants, along with USAPA, in the trial on the merits.

The APA layers also get credit that they aren't exploiting emotional clients. Marty might be viewed, by some, as a sophisticated ambulance chaser. But legal is legal, so my hats off to him too! Enjoy your day. Really.
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Old 05-08-2014 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Funny that the companies and apa's lawyers agree with the west. Maybe they aren't "real" either?
Well the company and apa have their own agendas and seriously dude, its company's.

apa wants to **** you so hard, you just don't realize it.

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Old 05-08-2014 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO

apa wants to **** you so hard, you just don't realize it.
Yeah about as hard as the east has already done to the west, at least now you will be laying right next to me taking it. This gives me great pleasure.
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Old 05-08-2014 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Yeah about as hard as the east has already done to the west, at least now you will be laying right next to me taking it. This gives me great pleasure.
Hahaha I guess we'll be passing the bottle :-)

Once again Cacti, some of us Easties don't hate you Westies, and many of us had no say in things.

Have a nice day sir
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Old 05-08-2014 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
Yeah about as hard as the east has already done to the west, at least now you will be laying right next to me taking it. This gives me great pleasure.
Wow. This really shows how delusional some the West pilots are. You will allow you career to be further destroyed as long as you're taking others down with you. Very sad some have allowed their hatred to completely blind them to reality. I'm sure the APA loves those that will lay on their own sword. If the APA gets their way your screen name will have to change from "Cactiboss" to " bottom of the list reserve CactiFo". Wake up man
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Old 05-09-2014 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
It's hopeless convincing you of anything you don't want to believe, I've finally learned that regarding the few of you who are out where the buses don't run.
Hey sport, I'm giving you credit for just that. I originally believed that the APA just jumped on the SCS bandwagon after Judge Silver ruled, but you have me thinking that was their plan all along. I did some research and found that they used it against TWA.

I can't find a link to the pdf article, but this has most of it and some good info. on MB:

Seniority integration and the McCaskill-Bond statute - Lexology

"Although unions and management were typically the parties in Section 13 arbitrations, other employee groups and individual employees could be granted party status or allowed to otherwise participate. See, e.g., Southern Emps. v. Republic/ALEA, 102 C.A.B. 616 (1983) (describing how seniority integration was negotiated by an "employee committee" established for that purpose without union involvement); Pan Am-TWA Route Exchange, Arbitration Award, 85 C.A.B. 2537 (1980) (noting that three individual engineers were parties to arbitration); NAA I, 95 C.A.B. at 584 (denying dissenting group "full party status" but noting that they'd been given the opportunity to participate in the LPP arbitration). Thus, as indicated by the language of the LPPs, unrepresented employees still had rights to fair and equitable seniority integration and binding arbitration to resolve integration disputes under the Allegheny-Mohawk LPPs."
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