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Old 06-24-2014 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by drinksonme
Let me get this straight, the President of USAPA just compared the negotiations of two pilot groups to that of a nuclear crisis, between 2 superpowers, that COULD HAVE ENDED THE WORLD. Holy ****, now I've seen it all. Talk about a simile that is an epic failure. That's either a big stretch or a big head.....your call. This is a serious disgrace, to reply in this manner to APA's most recent communication regarding the PROTOCOL AGREEMENT! Again, a PROTOCOL AGREEMENT! There is no counter to APA statements, nor a rebuttal of their facts. It comes off a desperate pep assembly speech for a team that has no chance of winning. Very sad display....
GH was actually alluding to the fact that this conflict will last as long as the cold war did... Which will be roughly 6 years.
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Old 06-24-2014 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by drinksonme
Let me get this straight, the President of USAPA just compared the negotiations of two pilot groups to that of a nuclear crisis, between 2 superpowers, that COULD HAVE ENDED THE WORLD. Holy ****, now I've seen it all. Talk about a simile that is an epic failure. That's either a big stretch or a big head.....your call. This is a serious disgrace, to reply in this manner to APA's most recent communication regarding the PROTOCOL AGREEMENT! Again, a PROTOCOL AGREEMENT! There is no counter to APA statements, nor a rebuttal of their facts. It comes off a desperate pep assembly speech for a team that has no chance of winning. Very sad display....
Bombastic, grandiose speeches have proven effective in influencing the simple-minded.
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Old 06-24-2014 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
GH was actually alluding to the fact that this conflict will last as long as the cold war did... Which will be roughly 6 years.
The Cold War lasted well over 40 years. If Commandant Hummel believes that, he's clueless. I expect allied forces will overcome the USAPA bloc in surprisingly short order.
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Old 06-24-2014 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
I expect allied forces will overcome the USAPA bloc in surprisingly short order.
Nice play on words... I like it.
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Old 06-24-2014 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by algflyr
Nice play on words... I like it.
Always good to have a sense of humor in trying times like these. If one can't laugh at all this while still debating it, one is slouching toward a total crack-up.
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Old 06-24-2014 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Always good to have a sense of humor in trying times like these. If one can't laugh at all this while still debating it, one is slouching toward a total crack-up.
I agree 100%
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Old 06-25-2014 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
The Cold War lasted well over 40 years. If Commandant Hummel believes that, he's clueless. I expect allied forces will overcome the USAPA bloc in surprisingly short order.
Commandant Hummel. Your in company with some of your favorite people. A lot of US guys don't like Hummel, accuse him of wanting to give up on the Nic just to suck up to the APA and move along.
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Old 06-25-2014 | 06:04 AM
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[QUOTE=eaglefly;1671291
USAPA isn't playing the hand they were dealt now. They sat down at the table, signed the MOU and now want to knock over the table once AA pilots staked the East with pay and pension raises. They sat down at a different table before with Nicolau and when they decided their hand wouldn't win then, they knocked over that table too. I too hope for a quick resolution and that involves a judge driving a stake through the heart of USAPA.[/QUOTE]

You are wrong, again. You are getting to be like cacti, saying the same old BS over and over again, hoping it will stick.

The US pilots all agreed to the MOU. The WEST decided to vote yes for it, all the while planning on suing AFTER it passed. THAT'S what happened and it changed everything with that lawsuit and Judge Silver's ruling.

In that case she was asked to give the west pilots representational status and she said no, but the APA and company still want to do it. AOL LLC went so far as to produce their own merger committee!

I asked you to show me a SLI where the a former CBA didn't participate in it. Or one that the new CBA ran the whole show.

Was the whole SCS a ploy by the APA all along, or an issue after the WEST pilots lawsuit. In other mergers, which came first, the SLI or SCS? Let's hear it.
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Old 06-25-2014 | 11:03 AM
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Interesting reads....

Something about having a transition agreement, and negotiating for awhile, The viola APA gets single carrier and they go on their merry way. Seems simple enough? Granted, don't know the history that well, but some of the statements in those documents seem to be mirroring something that is happening present day?! Or no?

http://www.amrcaseinfo.com/pdflib/955_15463.pdf

http://www.alliedpilots.org/Public/A...sitionstmt.pdf
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