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Old 09-03-2014, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Saabs View Post
Don't care which side wins or if it ends up meeting in the middle. Get it over with!
^^^^This! 1000 times this!!!

I really wish the union leadership at this airline would realize that the world doesn't begin or end in CLT. Not everyone wants to be locked into where they currently are.
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Old 09-03-2014, 03:49 PM
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In The PA, the APA wants the west to have a seat, American Airlines wants the west to have a seat and both will argue that position in front of the arbitrator. Usapa will be the only one arguing the west shouldn't get a seat.
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:09 PM
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well that and a few court rulings that say the west shouldn't. Not to mention past precedence. But that's Ok....lets give them a seat.....You know because we all know arbitrators are infallible.

Interesting that the APA doesn't want to give the TWA guys their own merger comm.......
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:13 PM
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....... The ability for all 3 to argue their sides and none to have control over the award is best. Just let the arbitrators do their job, accept it and move the hell on!
I'm with you on this. If that's how it happens, and I fervently hope it is, I'll be content and at peace with it. And be ready to just take my lumps and go forward, relegating the last however many years of bull**** to the ancient history bin.
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:17 PM
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After four pages of heated debate, I can tell this is an important issue. But as a military pilot looking to move on to the next level soon, I honestly have no idea what the NIC is. SLI I understand, but NIC, no idea. Anyone care to pass me the Cliffs Notes?
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:19 PM
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After four pages of heated debate, I can tell this is an important issue. But as a military pilot looking to move on to the next level soon, I honestly have no idea what the NIC is. SLI I understand, but NIC, no idea. Anyone care to pass me the Cliffs Notes?
I bet you'll soon be getting alot more than just cliff notes The NIC is a seniority list between America West and USAirways constructed by arbitrator George Nicolau. It's been several years since its construction but has never been used, it's been tied up in court. Currently the two pilot pilot groups operate on their previous lists.
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by crzipilot View Post
well that and a few court rulings that say the west shouldn't. Not to mention past precedence. But that's Ok....lets give them a seat.....You know because we all know arbitrators are infallible.

Interesting that the APA doesn't want to give the TWA guys their own merger comm.......
Relax, you won. Oh, the same court that said the west shouldn't also said usapa couldn't, yet here we are.
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:43 PM
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If west pilots want to present their case they can... This sounds feasible.

FYI, The CLT chairman has made what I feel to be many grossly inaccurate statements and forecasts regarding SLI in the past.

Once AOL responds to this we may see a resumption of fireworks on this thread. Alternatively, AOL could settle now, and avoid any uncertainty. This may be preferable for a more known/partnered outcome?
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by crzipilot View Post
well that and a few court rulings that say the west shouldn't. Not to mention past precedence. But that's Ok....lets give them a seat.....You know because we all know arbitrators are infallible.

Interesting that the APA doesn't want to give the TWA guys their own merger comm.......
Might be because that list merge happened a decade ago while LCC/HP never merged.

Maybe we can form committees for AirCal,Reno, TransCaribbean, and those that flew former EAL routes which of course would have to cover the former Branniff routes.
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Old 09-03-2014, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Wollac View Post
After four pages of heated debate, I can tell this is an important issue. But as a military pilot looking to move on to the next level soon, I honestly have no idea what the NIC is. SLI I understand, but NIC, no idea. Anyone care to pass me the Cliffs Notes?
Cliff notes? For a newhire it's the same as runway behind you, altitude above you or fuel in the truck. It just doesn't matter.

It's a fight about seniority that won't impact you but you might have to listen to various versions of 'what should have been done' for decades.
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