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Old 10-03-2014, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly View Post
Good luck. Those who've forged forward before you and tried to get specifics got little. Those who have communicated to the leadership how important an improved LTD benefit is, have been met with silence. LTD improvements are noticeably absent from APA's initial JCBA proposal to management and it seems to be an issue that's "confidential, on the Q.T. and very,........hush, hush".

I think collectively, we'll get nothing and like it.


You signed a flow thru contract. An arbitrator awarded you more for your delayed flow. Now you want more?

You were not furloughed.

The furloughees deserve LOS before any Flow thru.

Jeez, the greed.

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Whoops my apology, I read LOS into your post instead of LTD. Sorry. My bad
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Old 10-03-2014, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 7576FO View Post
You signed a flow thru contract. An arbitrator awarded you more for your delayed flow. Now you want more?

You were not furloughed.

The furloughees deserve LOS before any Flow thru.

Jeez, the greed.

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Whoops my apology, I read LOS into your post instead of LTD. Sorry. My bad
It's O.K, I'm used to being kicked in the nuts here before my posts are fully understood. I've also accepted that many native AA pilots will never see me as anything more then an unworthy carpetbagger here too. It is what it is.
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Old 10-03-2014, 04:08 PM
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It's O.K, I'm used to being kicked in the nuts here before my posts are fully understood. I've also accepted that many native AA pilots will never see me as anything more then an unworthy carpetbagger here too. It is what it is.
To be fair, a lot of what you've written has turned out to be completely wrong. You're a "glass completely empty with a hole in the bottom" guy. Your posts are great, they expand my vocabulary better than my word-a-day toilet paper.
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Old 10-03-2014, 06:54 PM
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I just got a shock today when I was doing some research on LTD.
Since it is provided by contractual means, LTD payments are taxable. Which means you will get approx 42% of you pre-tax income and the monthly payment is capped at $8000 prior to tax.
Or an income of $160k would be approx $112k after taxes (max value for LTD).
$8k per month (LTD max payment) is approx $96k per year.
Now since that is taxable it drops to $67k after tax.

Here is the real kicker, if you get any income through any other means. ie buy up via another LTD policy or just plain work.
AMR will reduce the LTD payments so that you still only get a total of $8000 from all sources.

Ouch.

Start an LCC, and don't get paid.


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Old 10-03-2014, 07:43 PM
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Start an LCC, and don't get paid.
???
Did you mean an LLC?
I have never delved into the depths of an LLC or a type S corp but I am pretty sure it doesn't work that way.
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Old 10-04-2014, 12:12 AM
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To be fair, a lot of what you've written has turned out to be completely wrong. You're a "glass completely empty with a hole in the bottom" guy. Your posts are great, they expand my vocabulary better than my word-a-day toilet paper.
Gee I'm crushed........and I was so hoping we could be real pals.
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Old 10-04-2014, 01:08 AM
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Hey Eagle, I'll toss you a bag of ice for your nuts :-)
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Old 10-04-2014, 07:35 AM
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Hey Eagle, I'll toss you a bag of ice for your nuts :-)
Why that's the nicest thing you've ever offered to toss at me.

My only concern is at what speed it would impact at.
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Old 10-04-2014, 07:58 AM
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Why that's the nicest thing you've ever offered to toss at me.

My only concern is at what speed it would impact at.
Eagle is it true that we don't get to vote on the JCBA ? Assuming they even get one before arbitration....
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Old 10-04-2014, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Thedude View Post
??? Did you mean an LLC? I have never delved into the depths of an LLC or a type S corp but I am pretty sure it doesn't work that way.
Sure does work that way.... Start a company and be sure expenses and your employees (wife, kid, sister, etc) payroll leaves you without a profit and not only do you have zero income to offset LTD but you can write off the losses against LTD's taxable income.

Unfortunately, this is a loophole and many people take advantage of programs like disability, unemployment, workmans comp, etc....
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