Upsddown

I believe the concern with the LAA pilots is how you integrate a Nic list with a LAA list?

If the West group was merged with the LAA group using some basis of longevity and status/category as was done at DAL/NWA and CAL/UAL it would look entirely different than what a merged Nic list with the LAA list would look like. That appears to be the concern of the LAA pilots.

eaglefly

True about the fences, but I note another validation of a West position. Sorry, I can't help but see it. In fact,........

.....you claim to be an LAA pilot (who "just wants to understand"), yet here you refer to your own supposed group first in the third person and then as "they". I hope you can understand my suspicions of you and your motives, because I see a lot of contradictions in you too. Nothing personal, but I could be talking to a West committee minion for all I know.

"They" and "their" again in describing your own supposed pilot group in this situation. Doesn't sound right to me and I cannot accept a simple "slip of the lip" explanation. In the end, you almost suggest that "they" (AAPSIC) could change their proposal to accommodate the other parties (LUS East or West) of which you supposedly aren't part of for having "very wise" proposals.

Again, no offense, but I'm sorry, you're all wrong to me. Too many bad vibes here for me.

eaglefly

You don't know the concern of your own supposed party to this integration and voice that as a question ?

My apologies on linking you to an LAA pilot. Clearly (to me) I've now concluded you are no such person.

Upsddown

Eaglefly,

Do you live in a world of paranoia?

I wrote to Cactiboss and you set off on some rant. Slow down.

I never said I was a LAA pilot.

Why is it you just can't finish a discussion instead of picking up your marbles and going home every time someone asks tough questions of you?
If you have a valid and defensible position nothing you say should jeopardize that. Unless of course your concerned you don't.

eaglefly

No paranoia here (at least not warranted), but that's an easy claim. Then that was MY mistake. You said you were an "American Airlines Pilot" and I assumed that meant LAA. After all........

Why would someone not internally involved with our pre-merger list be so interested in this issue ?

Why would someone NOT an LAA pilot claim to represent extensive and internal knowledge of this subject who was involved in no way, shape or form with this issue............ever ?

Answer: Because you OBVIOUSLY are a West pilot or in some way affiliated with the West committee (which you previously claimed not to be) and are on an intel mission for others. Sorry I couldn't help you out much. But, I actually feel quite stupid assuming I was talking to someone A. objective, B. neutral in interest and C. with at least some rudimentary past exposure to this issue.

I was wrong on all three counts. You more then implied otherwise on C. Those bad vibes I had about you ?

They just blew my tinfoil hat off....and yet even MORE reason it would be galactically stupid to give you any info you could use again AAPSIC or LAA pilots.


Nice try. I don't interact with B.S artists using facades and subterfuge once obviously exposed. You have no ideas about the internal issues regarding Supp W. pilots other then what you've learned since the merger and opinions from others and TRUST ME, that is only half the story. Personally, I think you're here to ferret out this subject to use for the West committee and against AAPSIC. Not a bad idea actually..........wouldn't that be a nice feather if you could get great intel to kick around for strategy, especially if it placed APA in jeopardy in the future or exacerbated that possibility.

Sorry brother, you're as wrong as my tinfoil hat can detect and it's pretty good I think. Say hi to Jeff for me, will you ?

Upsddown

Eaglefly,

Based on the Supp W arbitration awards and what limited information you have provided it's safe to conclude nothing will occur to your longevity in this merger.

You might want to get your antennas on your tin foil hat checked you seem to be receiving bad reception.

Cameltoad

Hey upsddown don't sweat ol' Eaglefly, he's just passed because he knows he'll end up being junior to every west guy on Nic List. Even if he is "real LAA"
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Cameltoad

Darn auto correct, that's ****ed, not passed

eaglefly

Yes, the reception WAS scrambled, but it's now coming in crystal clear.

You're a West pilot with no significant internal knowledge of the LAA longevity issue despite your claims and insinuations and I consider it laughable you are lecturing me on what I know with 18 years experience with it. But hey, knock yourself out. The proper application of pre-merger career expectations should trump the West's strategy of attempting to dilute junior LAA pilots ISL positions, if the integration is concluded equitably.

Good luck !

Upsddown

18 years experience? How was Orcas Island?