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CODs4ever 01-06-2016 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by TankerDriver (Post 2041623)
And they wonder why there's about a 70% attrition rate right now of separation eligible pilots in the USAF. Curtis Lemay is rolling in his grave...

Exactly. I teach kids to surf once in a while in my spare time. But it sure as heck isn't because someone mandates it. It's because I enjoy it and my own kids surf as well. I'm not going to India to build houses just so it looks good on an airline app. Please....

DCA A321 FO 01-06-2016 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by TankerDriver (Post 2041396)
That's only because they need OPR bullets to get promoted.

Yep, I was CFC coordinator back in the day.

DCA A321 FO 01-06-2016 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by CODs4ever (Post 2041670)
I'm not going to India to build houses just so it looks good on an airline app. Please....

You don't like spicy curry? :D

TankerDriver 01-07-2016 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO (Post 2041706)
Yep, I was CFC coordinator back in the day.

Ah ha! Well done sir!

FreighterGuyNow 01-10-2016 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by LuckyNow (Post 2041219)
Of the ones that get 190, do most seem to bid off at first chance? I'd have to weigh a second year on Category 1 FO pay vs. long term training. I just wondered if guys were hanging out on it hoping to upgrade fast. Correct me if I'm wrong but it's a few years to hold left seat in that, yes?

Soon as you get off probation you can upgrade. What, like $147 per hour second year ?

Sliceback 01-10-2016 06:08 PM

First year 190 CA pay is $141. Seems to indicate that you can upgrade in the first year. LOS yearly increase is only $1/hr plus the 3% annual bump.

Second year pay the 190 CA pay beats Grp II FO by $27/hr. So even being a line holder wouldn't make the Grp II FO pay more.

Year three the pay difference is $8/hr. At that point a line holder Grp II FO could earn more vs a 190 reserve Captain.

So if you're chasing max bucks upgrading to 190 CA ASAP, especially in the first year, is the money winner. Before you hit year 3 LOS you can bid off(assuming upgrade in the first year).

IrishNJ 01-10-2016 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2041403)
I had a commanding officer mandate it (yes in addition to flying 5 days a week and 2 weekends a month, we had to either 1) Take Grad School courses or 2) do volunteer work) for all of his pilots if they wanted to be competitive in he squadron.

Volunteer work mandatory. That says it all.

FreighterGuyNow 01-11-2016 03:45 AM

[QUOTE=Sliceback;2044355
So if you're chasing max bucks upgrading to 190 CA ASAP, especially in the first year, is the money winner.[/QUOTE]

Can anybody imagine a career at a major where you sat F/O for 12 months then spent all the rest in the left seat?

Marlin 01-11-2016 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by FreighterGuyNow (Post 2044501)
Can anybody imagine a career at a major where you sat F/O for 12 months then spent all the rest in the left seat?

This 16 year FO says no😛

Saabs 01-11-2016 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by FreighterGuyNow (Post 2044501)
Can anybody imagine a career at a major where you sat F/O for 12 months then spent all the rest in the left seat?

Unless you live in PHL, LGA, or BOS, 190 captain isn't worth it for most. The little bus has much better trips and flexibility.


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