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Old 07-13-2021, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul View Post
I’ve never been imputed anything
Not a single cent.
Evah.
I was imputed a little while I was there but avoided anything big because I drove to work. I'm glad they stopped doing that because I flew with a new hire once who got a tax bill on the 15th.
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Old 07-19-2021, 02:51 PM
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At FedEx you really don't have to do that though... The jumpseats on company are usually wide open. You just jumpseat in to work and you're protected by the contract. I'd much rather jumpseat on FedEx than those brutal coach tickets going JAN-DFW-PHX-ANC. The domestic guys will jumpseat in for a flight and go straight to work. They don't even need crashpads or airport cars.

My first crash pad at FedEx was $250 a month. Because of imputed income it's more expensive to commute to Atlas for many.... Then FedEx paid to move me to MEM so I no longer even have to commute. It really should be a no brainer.
Most of this is subjective with factual data which makes sense to those with similar experiences. Totally agree, many would rather jump seat on their iron, unless given the opportunity for business or higher - you know points (limited), etc or just the COVID impact = many of us can upgrade, loads are full of cheap flyers so personally upgrades have been well over 50% (This will end in time). Any commuting MX delay, WX delay, CNX’d flight, act of God = protected by contract and your never outside the bubble. ANC is just the beginning of your stop here, then you can bid out eventually. I was there very short period, others for a year or more your mileage may vary. So that leaves JFK, ORD, LAX, CVG, MIA and MEM for now. Superb benefit having your company pay for your move to MEM, if MEM is your dream area to retire and die which can’t be beat my hats off to you; therefore, it is “a no brainer.” Many here enjoy their Shangri la of choice for family, friends, divorce issues, roots, etc or even overseas (works well for some). Subjectively MEM is by far not my garden spot to sacrifice lifestyle for $/ease of returning home, etc. It really reeks of work doing those lines comparatively to 1-2 iron ops - I myself avoid CVG like the plague = all subjective. Miss HSV, pure chill, casual international access and that was the pure life for me and not even living there but drive and fly. I could drive to MEM it’s not even twice the drive and pretty sure I can hold it easily, but waiting to see what the lines will bring before I ever pull that trigger. Man, I wish MEM was my Shangri la.

Objectively: $$$ is much better - Buy your own tickets, Buy a better hotel/crash pad, Stay domestic, Paid move to MEM your worksite, trip trade, etc. All Good Stuff!
You only have one life so make it work for you and your priorities - more $$$ in hand is undeniable so most will sacrifice something. For those able to not sacrifice anything you are definitely “Living YOUR Dream!” and that’s fantastic. We’re crew so something will be missing just like Ted Turner when asked how much is enuff. “Just a little bit more!”

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Old 07-19-2021, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AboveMins View Post
Personally, I won't go to a pax only airline. FedEx or UPS... well, if that job offer ever came, it would be a no-brainer. Unfortunately, it hasn't come yet. So here I sit, a lowly mid-pack FO on the whale, trying to make the best of it while I can.

YMMV.
Could be called tomorrow, could be awhile. Either way I hope you get there. Both great stable companies and I agree even if the Pax carriers had a more stable past I would prefer the box method vs the blood letting. Aside from compensation discussions- Pax carriers do have their allure with their 25 domiciles for the Big 3 not even including the huge bump of LCC’s on top of that while Purple/Brown have 7 or so within the continental U.S. Past decade has given pilots the ability to choose locations they prefer to live/work out of vs the “First One to call!.” Although stifled in 2020, etc., things are starting to ramp up heavily again. May you get to your preferred final destination and be very satisfied/happy! Cheers!

Well, at least your whale riding and not guppy griping granted staying home is fun, but not the other stuff.

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Old 07-19-2021, 06:59 PM
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Could be called tomorrow, could be awhile. Either way I hope you get there. Both great stable companies and I agree even if the Pax carriers had a more stable past I would prefer the box method vs the blood letting. Aside from compensation discussions- Pax carriers do have their allure with their 25 domiciles for the Big 3 not even including the huge bump of LCC’s on top of that while Purple/Brown have 7 or so within the continental U.S. Past decade has given pilots the ability to choose locations they prefer to live/work out of vs the “First One to call!.” Although stifled in 2020, etc., things are starting to ramp up heavily again. May you get to your preferred final destination and be very satisfied/happy! Cheers!

Well, at least your whale riding and not guppy griping granted staying home is fun, but not the other stuff.
95% of yall are going to get calls from UPS or FedEx if you want them. Most of you will eventually get hired by the first one or interview at both. Having flown at both places Atlas has some great guys and I'm hoping yall either get the contract you're owed or you end up here. Either way all of your futures are very bright.
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Old 07-19-2021, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
95% of yall are going to get calls from UPS or FedEx if you want them. Most of you will eventually get hired by the first one or interview at both. Having flown at both places Atlas has some great guys and I'm hoping yall either get the contract you're owed or you end up here. Either way all of your futures are very bright.
If you think 95% of Atlas pilots can get hired at UPS or FedEx, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
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Old 07-19-2021, 09:34 PM
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If you think 95% of Atlas pilots can get hired at UPS or FedEx, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
Thats the biggest reality distortion field I have seen in a long time.
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Old 07-20-2021, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker View Post
If you think 95% of Atlas pilots can get hired at UPS or FedEx, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

I will sell my bridge as-well. Any buyers?
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Old 07-20-2021, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker View Post
If you think 95% of Atlas pilots can get hired at UPS or FedEx, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
I don't mean at this moment. Add something to your resume. Checkride Busts have a statute of limitations where airlines care - I had more than one. I think the magic number is 6 years. You can get hired with a DUI. I didn't have any of them but I was told that a buddy of mine who does had a great resume. If you have 1000 hours of PIC and a Boeing Type you're very competitive at both of those places. I had an hours long conversation with the former head of pilot recruitment at FedEx. I know these things to be true.

So if you don't have your 1000 hours PIC or your college degree... Get them. Network with guys you fly with. Don't be an ********* to everyone you meet. Try to get into the training department. Go to a job fair. Do these things and you'll get a call if you want one. The only guys that I think are completely unhireable at Atlas are the guys who can't upgrade and the worst *********s at the company who are known by everyone. From my experience there that's probably 5% of the pilots.
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Old 07-20-2021, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
I don't mean at this moment. Add something to your resume. Checkride Busts have a statute of limitations where airlines care - I had more than one. I think the magic number is 6 years. You can get hired with a DUI. I didn't have any of them but I was told that a buddy of mine who does had a great resume. If you have 1000 hours of PIC and a Boeing Type you're very competitive at both of those places. I had an hours long conversation with the former head of pilot recruitment at FedEx. I know these things to be true.

So if you don't have your 1000 hours PIC or your college degree... Get them. Network with guys you fly with. Don't be an ********* to everyone you meet. Try to get into the training department. Go to a job fair. Do these things and you'll get a call if you want one. The only guys that I think are completely unhireable at Atlas are the guys who can't upgrade and the worst *********s at the company who are known by everyone. From my experience there that's probably 5% of the pilots.
Thanks for encouragement, dad.
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Old 07-20-2021, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
95% of yall are going to get calls from UPS or FedEx if you want them. Most of you will eventually get hired by the first one or interview at both. Having flown at both places Atlas has some great guys and I'm hoping yall either get the contract you're owed or you end up here. Either way all of your futures are very bright.
That's only mostly bull ****, so you're partially right.

A very small fraction will have that opportunity. So that's nice.
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