Originally Posted by Atrasaty (Post 2884546)

My point is that it is a tactical position, a bargaining chip that in my opinion I being used to scare Crewmembers into pressuring the negotiators. My contention is that we cannot operate without it and they know that full well but hey.... It's a free joker card they think they can use.

Some great history raised on this thread that our colleagues who have less than a decade in the business would be well served researching it while making future career choices, updating log books and filling in airline apps. DHL/Airborne/Burlington/Orion etc etc etc. DC8 said "don't think it can't happen to you." I assert it WILL HAPPEN TO US. Regardless of the outcome of contract negotiations it is my opinion, and mine alone that in 3 years AAWH will exist but Atlas/Polar/Southern will bear little to no resemblance to the operation (or lack there of) that we see today. AAWH executives have NO interest in running an airline, it's too difficult for them. The big payday they got from the initial Amazon deal demonstrated the wealth they can accrue overnight by selling out. Our near retirement age former Nortwest flight ops mismanagement team are so far out of their depth it would be laughable if lives had not been already lost. I apologize for my bleak outlook, this is just my opinion and I really look forward to some more optimistic counter contentions.

Best of luck to all. WE are the union.

Originally Posted by iPilot (Post 2884085)

Because if they could have it their way pilots would just live in base like every other employee in the world. Commuting is a perk based on tradition, nothing more.

Originally Posted by Turbine1 (Post 2884166)

The company is not concerned with the well being of their pilots, their safety and now certificates. Just move the metal peasant, oh and sorry about that letter of investigation you'll be getting from the FAA, but we got the plane to point B didn't we?

Atlas also left their crews to relax in the Garden Hotel in Narita during a super typhoon this week when other airlines evacuated. We still have crewmembers in that hotel going on 28 hours with no power in 97 degree heat. The company hasn't bothered to check on them. Can't be losing that cheap block of rooms for our crews you know..

Word from some of our station managers is we're losing up to 9 of our most reliable 767's to ATI shortly. Looks like Amazon has reached the end of their patience.

Originally Posted by Atrasaty (Post 2884673)

During my complimentary follow up call to the Psychic Network, Miss Clarissa also revealed to me that K4 will grow more then 50% within 4 years and will end up operating several 74/77 airframes currently on and or destined for the PO/5Y/SA certificate. She said something about it being run by airline people, not lawyers and speculators. :D

Originally Posted by City0090015 (Post 2884111)

Direct from the union that Atlas purposefully overflew hundreds of pilots to guarantee they wouldn’t lose those pilots to other airlines. AIMS was purposely shut off to stop the bleeding, and now if the pilots get another job, they have to disclose their violation.
“Atlas, there is a new threat to all of us. That threat is the elevated possibility for an FAA violation due to more irresponsible management in Flight Operations. Apparently, but not surprising, this time, the company has been unable to properly administer or supervise AIMS as it had guaranteed the FAA it could do during the program certification process. You see, AIMS was the essential component when Atlas got permission to operate both under FAR Parts 121 & 117. It seems, over some period of time, the flags that guard against FAR violations were taken down or ignored entirely, thereby putting at least 100 Atlas pilots’ ATP certificates in jeopardy with the FAA. For years the union has had reports of flags being ignored or taken down, but we have been unable to definitively verify these reports until now. The company, at some point, self-disclosed these hundreds of FAR violations to the FAA and only after official disclosure did it inform the individual pilots of the situation that originated with the company alone. This whole episode is just another example of the irresponsible way the Atlas corporate management conducts itself.”

Originally Posted by City0090015 (Post 2884111)

Direct from the union that Atlas purposefully overflew hundreds of pilots to guarantee they wouldn’t lose those pilots to other airlines. AIMS was purposely shut off to stop the bleeding, and now if the pilots get another job, they have to disclose their violation.
“Atlas, there is a new threat to all of us. That threat is the elevated possibility for an FAA violation due to more irresponsible management in Flight Operations. Apparently, but not surprising, this time, the company has been unable to properly administer or supervise AIMS as it had guaranteed the FAA it could do during the program certification process. You see, AIMS was the essential component when Atlas got permission to operate both under FAR Parts 121 & 117. It seems, over some period of time, the flags that guard against FAR violations were taken down or ignored entirely, thereby putting at least 100 Atlas pilots’ ATP certificates in jeopardy with the FAA. For years the union has had reports of flags being ignored or taken down, but we have been unable to definitively verify these reports until now. The company, at some point, self-disclosed these hundreds of FAR violations to the FAA and only after official disclosure did it inform the individual pilots of the situation that originated with the company alone. This whole episode is just another example of the irresponsible way the Atlas corporate management conducts itself.”

Originally Posted by bajadaydreamer (Post 2884816)

Is this a troll post? I have not heard anything from the union