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Old 01-21-2021, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by wmupilot20 View Post
As for a potential new hire. Few questions:
1. Are new hires still being hired into the 777? And is that going to continue for the future?
2. How are the lines for the 777? 16 on 14 off or 17 or 13 off or is it different?
3. How's the success rate for training for the 777?

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Atlas HR decides what airframe you are offered but classes are scheduled for the 777 about every 3 weeks. All the lines are a minimum of 13 days off, but there are 30 day, 60 day, split lines, lines that start one/or end with deadheads, 17 straight days, and all sorts of things in between. Training success rate has been getting better as the quality of new hires has gone up substantially in the last year. It is not AQP and there is not a lot of hand holding. All the instructors will bend over backwards to help, as long as you study and show up prepared.
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Old 01-21-2021, 06:18 PM
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I put my app in back in jun 2020 and I had an interview in dec. I have no class date yet, just in the hiring pool.



For my friends that had interviews, they all had an internal rec. My interview invite came the day after I got someone to put in a rec for me. My friends that put an app in last year and haven’t interview didn’t have a rec. so I feel like those are weighted really heavily right now. Hopefully you know someone.



that being said, I would agree with the above poster to put in the app because it doesn’t hurt to have it in there
I interviewed 30 Sept. Added to the pool 11 Oct. Still waiting for a class.

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Old 01-22-2021, 05:24 AM
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Haven’t posted on here for quite some time, but I wanted to pass on my experience so far with the application, interview and acceptance process I’ve experienced with Atlas. I applied last July with an internal rec. and interviewed at the end of September. At that time, the word was Atlas was only pulling apps with an internal recommendation. I had also heard that they were wanting pilots with Boeing time, preferably heavy time. Take that with a grain of salt...... Approximately 2 weeks after my interview, I was placed in the pool and notified mid December of a class date starting in February. That’s the timeline I worked with and it obviously varies person to person. I do have two buddies I worked with prior (both with 767 command time) that are in the pool from an October interview timeframe still waiting on a class. Talking with a couple of other ex co-workers that started on the 777 in the past few months, they said the experience level within the classes are still varied.

I hope this sheds a little light, but I’m sure it varies person to person. To give a quick gloss over of my time/exp....... total time is 13k, last gig was 767 Captain doing both passenger and cargo hauling. I’ll be seeing you guys next month!
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Old 01-22-2021, 01:27 PM
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Haven’t posted on here for quite some time, but I wanted to pass on my experience so far with the application, interview and acceptance process I’ve experienced with Atlas. I applied last July with an internal rec. and interviewed at the end of September. At that time, the word was Atlas was only pulling apps with an internal recommendation. I had also heard that they were wanting pilots with Boeing time, preferably heavy time. Take that with a grain of salt...... Approximately 2 weeks after my interview, I was placed in the pool and notified mid December of a class date starting in February. That’s the timeline I worked with and it obviously varies person to person. I do have two buddies I worked with prior (both with 767 command time) that are in the pool from an October interview timeframe still waiting on a class. Talking with a couple of other ex co-workers that started on the 777 in the past few months, they said the experience level within the classes are still varied.



I hope this sheds a little light, but I’m sure it varies person to person. To give a quick gloss over of my time/exp....... total time is 13k, last gig was 767 Captain doing both passenger and cargo hauling. I’ll be seeing you guys next month!
You got a two month lead on your class date? Is that typical? I was originally told during the interview that it would be a January class time frame. Then an blanket email came out saying 1Q 2021. Now more than halfway through Jan and one last class for the 74 (my requested airframe, I know there is no quarantee) on March 15th that would afford 30 days of notification, I am starting to wonder when I will finally get called.

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Old 01-22-2021, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PappyBoyington View Post
Haven’t posted on here for quite some time, but I wanted to pass on my experience so far with the application, interview and acceptance process I’ve experienced with Atlas. I applied last July with an internal rec. and interviewed at the end of September. At that time, the word was Atlas was only pulling apps with an internal recommendation. I had also heard that they were wanting pilots with Boeing time, preferably heavy time. Take that with a grain of salt...... Approximately 2 weeks after my interview, I was placed in the pool and notified mid December of a class date starting in February. That’s the timeline I worked with and it obviously varies person to person. I do have two buddies I worked with prior (both with 767 command time) that are in the pool from an October interview timeframe still waiting on a class. Talking with a couple of other ex co-workers that started on the 777 in the past few months, they said the experience level within the classes are still varied.

I hope this sheds a little light, but I’m sure it varies person to person. To give a quick gloss over of my time/exp....... total time is 13k, last gig was 767 Captain doing both passenger and cargo hauling. I’ll be seeing you guys next month!
Welcome. Hope you enjoy it here.
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Old 01-23-2021, 07:01 PM
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Welcome. Hope you enjoy it here.
Agree with Elevation. Good to have you on board. It’s what you make of it and who knows it might be quite a bit better later this year or the next. It’s not for everyone but I seem to have a good time.

*Just keep everything in perspective and probably someone has said it before although I have never heard it:
Atlas is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get!
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Old 01-27-2021, 09:58 AM
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An acquaintance of mine I keep in contact with at Atlas said the union and company are going to meet a couple more times before they go to arbitration because of “big progress” in the last negotiating season. Does anyone think they’re going to realistically TA any outstanding financial pieces of the contract prior to arbitration?

Hoping the best for your pilot group, it’s beyond overdue.
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Old 01-27-2021, 11:04 AM
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An acquaintance of mine I keep in contact with at Atlas said the union and company are going to meet a couple more times before they go to arbitration because of “big progress” in the last negotiating season. Does anyone think they’re going to realistically TA any outstanding financial pieces of the contract prior to arbitration?

Hoping the best for your pilot group, it’s beyond overdue.
We don't know.

Some think the only real negotiating happens at the 11th hour. The idea is the company thinks the arbitrator will award more than what we'll vote for, so we'll get a last minute, cheap-but-sexy offer. There's some sense to this. We may jump at a flashy rate and ignore a crummy retirement, etc. An arbitrator would look at a 400m bailout as we expanded services with Chinese companies among many other things. It's conceivable he could award us a lot of money.

Others think the various camps have too much of their professional, political and personal identities invested in these positions. So the individuals in charge can not afford to lose face via compromise. We'll see a flurry of activity as each party tries to look the most earnest in front of the arbitrator with no real progress. That still means stalemate to arbitration.

The reality is we don't know what's coming. Reality will develop along somebody's prediction. That doesn't mean any of us are good prognosticators. If we were we'd be wealthier and better positioned.

We don't know.

Personally I favor positioning for resiliency.
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Old 01-27-2021, 11:17 PM
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The reality is we don't know what's coming. Reality will develop along somebody's prediction. That doesn't mean any of us are good prognosticators.
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Old 01-27-2021, 11:49 PM
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Personally I favor positioning for resiliency.
Elevation hit the nail on the head with their last post. No one wants to act against their own best interest, but we’re fighting the good fight because that’s how you play baseball.

I do think it’s a good sign the company wants to meet with us again before this conundrum gets sent to an arbitrator. Fingers crossed it works out well, but we just don’t know.

Crack open a beer, it’s gonna be a good show.

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