Might be earlier than you think!

 

Thanks Clue. Your explanation makes total sense. That's what I was thinking. Lots of factors involved in making one's schedule over 64 to achieve those Recruiter 200k.

 

Im year 3, I've done 3 OT trips this year, I'm on track to make 240k. I don't live in base. Haven't outbased this year. I'll take 2 months off for my vacation though so I'll probably make a little over 200k.

It's not recruiter math, the 747 just has much better opportunities through the chaos in that fleet.

 

There has been an increase of flying hours this past six months for the most part (ORD 74) vs days worked (crt) so efficiencies are being attempted for greater gains. Unsure how this will affect future lines with the 76/73 departures time will tell. Keep those triples flowing.

 

Look here man, I left Atlas awhile back for my legacy gig, I will say that your comment here is way off base.... Awesome QOL can be a achieved at Atlas and a far superior one that no regional pilot will be able to ever achieve regardless of their seniority....

 

Good to see you back round here S8. Great chime in from those living the: "In the know!" Unsure if it's a bot, troll or someone who was slammed in some way. Really doesn't matter as it's like a portion of the justice system, just more stir the pot hogwash. Cheers S8

*14 day trip next month (rounded up) and a 20+ above mmg with two great layovers. Must admit having a short back to back that's stuffed in there so there's a small price for high pay.

**I will say it will be interesting to see how our lines might be in the future with all the retraining. OE flights will be almost transparent to normal ops is a guess.

 

At my old regional we had CA’s who flew day trips that credited over 8 hours. They worked 10 days per month max, depending on seniority all weekends off. They could drop any of those day turns, awarded any vacation days they wanted. They made well over 300k with 10% 401k match while sleeping in their own bed every night (I can’t believe I’m having to defend the regionals haha).

Can you give a detailed response to why Atlas QoL is apparently superior to everyone else? The “trust me bro” is getting kind of old.

 

He never said "superior to everyone else" so that's the slight change in pushing a narrative using "everyone". It's mostly in the eye of the beholder, but you can stack up work hours, days, sleeping in your own bed, weekends off, etc. as these attributes definitively show that the work itself is truly work and nothing more. I kid you not I enjoy sleeping in my own bed, but the travel experiences are 2nd to none for me. This isn't Hilton Garden stuff. QoL encompasses more than the home front for many as work is really part of it. Examples for you - short call/long call, etc. that's QoL for most. If you're just dreaming of being home collecting a paycheck that is swell no doubt. It seems we all must work for the paycheck so here we are, but truly enjoying what you do and getting paid for it is truly amazing as regionals and international work are so far apart it's mind blowing. Even when you arrive at the top tier levels I am privy to many Big 3 crews arriving after me and leaving long before. (Not sure this will last under new management) It's just different and that counts for most of us. I also have been pushing to leave somewhere after having worn it out. Definitely not roses at any outfit and things aren't perfect, but these lifestyles are not the same.

Regarding that great Capt life I get it, there are a few anomalies out there - especially those captured during the lost decade. They roll some nice schedules and if it were that great during your early years most would stay. Most do not, you didn't - hence AA is probably where you reside for the past year and some change perhaps. Good stuff and hopefully you reside at your base as that's what it takes to sleep in your own bed every night no matter where you work - dead giveaway. If you're commuting to base and fly your loads and commute home that is miserable. You probably don't, but I hope you do live in your base and your QoL has been mastered and you're where you are supposed to be like many of us.

I would have taken your good advice many moons ago if the pax game fulfilled my priorities - "find an opportunity through a low cost carrier pilot hiring program to skip the regionals." Is what you typed. My advice would be - fly with Atlas see the world if you dare while you wait for your "dream JOB." Same idea, just different approaches literally.

 

And let's context this in -- those guys at your regional were there for 20+ years, spent 10 of those years making $17/hr and until 2021 were making around $120/hr (as topped out Captains) and certainly NOT making $300k, or having a 10% 401k match. Infact, how many of the regionals even do a 10% 401k match?

So perhaps you should compare those guys to 20+year 74 Captains at Atlas, and not the 2-3 year FOs that we're talking about? Maybe one that lives in ANC or MIA and spends 25 nights a month in their own bed, yet makes more than double than your theoretical regional Captain? On, and the overnights they do have aren't in a Comfort Inn in Joplin.

 

lol I chuckled at that part. So true for regional jobs.