I interviewed at Atlas back in November of 2010. I was devastated to say the least when I received the TBNT letter. Sounds to me like this may have been the best thing that could have happened to me. FWIW Atlas was doing great and morale seemed to be quite high back then. It's disappointing just how quick things can change. I wish all the great guys/gals that have significant time invested there the best.

 

Two more 747 classes announced- October 10 and October 31
with 18 in each class.

 

The 3 American Eagle Carriers (wholly owned): Envoy (the old AA Eagle), PDT and PSA both announced pay increases and up to a $20K signing bonus in the past few days.

When will Atlas show us the money?

 

Sep 15 Atlas vacancy/base bid:

1400 pilots
65 new hires
-48 ANC 747
-17 CVG 767
22 Capt-767 CVG

 

Easy solution. Get hired by Atlas, make it through training, get sent home to wait for OE, call up PSA/PDT, go to training for 2 months, get through their OE, receive a check for $20k, then, take the money and run, get called for Atlas OE. :-) (This is a joke................................but seriously).


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So if they are hiring 36 they may net 6 when its all said and done.

 

24 in class right now.

 

This feels as though this has been 6+ years riding on the back of a big phat turd. I'm finally pressing send on my apps as i'm enjoying decent qol but make peanuts. Time to burn this place down.... FYI Buyer i was you with hopes it could improve. Not a chance! If you suffer from big shiny jet syndrome then please by all means apply.

 

Out of curiosity, what is your gross annual after 6+ years?

 

You will be making about 140k gross on your W2 (not including per diem) left seat of a 767 @ 6 years or 170k left seat 747 depending on if you waited a few months to upgrade on the 747 or took first available upgrade on the 767. This assumes no extra flying on days off. +/- 10% depending on sick calls, how you use vacation, conflict bidding training, etc. That's all pretty meaningless for new guys though, no idea what kind of seat a newhire today would be looking at in the year 2022. I've always made about 3-10% less than hourly rate x 1000 at Atlas, except my first year, under the old contract, during which I made significantly more. Let's just say 75% of the way through 2016 and I haven't yet grossed 100k, sitting left seat in a widebody aircraft.

It's because our schedules here aren't block time productive like a normal airline. Most of us rely on the 1 hour pay per 4.95 hours at work trip rig and industry lagging 62 hour guarantee (50 hour 1st year). Due to contract language we can and often are sent home early from trips and dropped to guarantee on the company's whim. I'm not trying to complain, these are just the facts.