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01-03-2017 | 04:11 PM

#15301

Atrasaty

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Originally Posted by sixfootglass

Just thought I would throw my earnings in there for the benefit of those looking at coming to Atlas. I have been here for 9.5 months and as of the Dec. 30 paycheck have grossed $27,839.

Wow.......it's worse than I thought. Bottom line if you are a regional pilot with a car payment, mortgage, family to feed and an education loan to service and you choose to come here you may well drown like many of our FO's are right now. I have also spoken with guys that are using up their savings and credit cards to stay afloat in the hope they can move on before they go under. That's a lot of induced stress and a shameful situation. I hope it changes sooner rather than later but my optimism has gone.

01-03-2017 | 09:43 PM

#15302

Globemaster2827

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Originally Posted by Atrasaty

I have spoken with many 76 FO's that are on target to make 50-60k first year after months of training delays. Think about that, 50k for flying a wide body jet in worldwide operations. That's criminal in my opinion but that is the reality despite what HR will tell you.

As a first year FO at Atlas your guarantee is $38,200. Period. If you were to get 15 hours of over guarantee a month (a large number in my opinion) you make $47,740. 25 hours a month (a pipe dream without VXing)? $54,100. The facts are that you probably won't crack $50K without tons of VXing and you won't be able to hold open time trips very often as a junior FO.

01-04-2017 | 09:52 AM

#15303

Davetastic

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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827

I'm on 6 year pay and I barely cracked $100K last year. True story.

I just finished year 2. My results:

year 1 42k gross
year 2 87k gross

no vx, no outbase, no open time pick-up and I conflict bid all training and vacation.

01-04-2017 | 11:06 AM

#15304

DJIA

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Originally Posted by Davetastic

I just finished year 2. My results:

year 1 42k gross
year 2 87k gross

no vx, no outbase, no open time pick-up and I conflict bid all training and vacation.

Is this on the 74 or 76? Also, how many days at home did you average per month? Thanks for the info!

01-04-2017 | 11:15 AM

#15305

Davetastic

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Originally Posted by FlybyKnight

Do you have your app in at UPS. You'd more than double what you made last year. Heard there are around a half dozen or more Atlas dudes in the newhire class that started yesterday.

I wish...I don't know anyone there that could give me a rec. If I did, I'd certainly apply.

01-04-2017 | 11:33 AM

#15306

captainv

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Originally Posted by FlybyKnight

Do you have your app in at UPS. You'd more than double what you made last year. Heard there are around a half dozen or more Atlas dudes in the newhire class that started yesterday.

There are a ton more pilots already in the UPS pipeline.

01-04-2017 | 11:52 AM

#15307

A5t2l8a0s

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Originally Posted by DJIA

Is this on the 74 or 76? Also, how many days at home did you average per month? Thanks for the info!

Gotta be 74 as 76 pay second year is 84. And on the 76 between 12-14 days at home depending on how you can work the commute is what I have experienced.

01-04-2017 | 12:18 PM

#15308

Davetastic

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Originally Posted by DJIA

Is this on the 74 or 76? Also, how many days at home did you average per month? Thanks for the info!

I'm on the 747 and my bid seniority in ANC routinely gets me a DH on the front end as to not burn days off getting to work. I have never been extended (although they have tried but only a few times) and I have never burned a day off getting home. I average 15 days off a month. Never less than 14 and occasionally 16. When I bang in sick or conflict bid it can be more which drops me to min guarantee with R1's being stuck on the front or back but i'd rather be at home regardless.

pm me for more details.

01-04-2017 | 01:06 PM

#15309

thesandbox

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From: Front Row

on the 767 and at the end of my fourth year here I just broke $80k for the first time....and notice I did not say $81k for a reason.

Yes, apps in, updated and still waiting though.

01-04-2017 | 03:29 PM

#15310

alphonso1

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From: Unknown

Has anyone been called from the Preferred Hiring List Yet?

Interviewed Last August (2016), and got called Last Month
By KF....

She had asked me if I was interested in a Southern Air Class that
Was beginning on December 22, 2016.

I, respectfully declined, and indicated to her, that my preference was
to stay on the Atlas Air Side Of The House.

She indicated that that was NO PROBLEM and she told me that they had a B747 Class in January 2017, a B767 Class in February 2017, and a B747 Class in March 2017.....

Today is January 4, 2017, and I haven't heard anything from anyone.

Any Atlas Pilots out there able to give me any guidance, OR Intel,
On the New Hire Classes at The School House?

I'm a little hesitant on calling KF Directly, but, I sometimes believe Time Is Of The Essence!

HELP!