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Old 01-01-2017, 12:59 PM
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It might sound like a joke to some, but hitting up the Ale House just about every day is what helped me and a lot of my classmates make it through. Perfect mixture of stress relief, with a lot of questioning / quizzing each other mixed in. We had one guy who couldn't understand the hydraulic system on the 767 until we had a few drinks and made a diagram on the table out of forks and knives.
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Old 01-01-2017, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CandlerKid View Post
5th year 767 Captain pay is something like $60 an hour more at Connie than Atlas working less days. While their QOL stuff looks bad, ours is pretty much worthless, so hard to overlook the huge pay gap. Guess their management saw the need to be competitive finally in today's pilot environment.
I do think that eventually K4 would've had to have been released and after 5 years of stalling it was probably getting close to that and K4's Management knew it. I'd say that was a more likely reason why they got their contract than anything...
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Old 01-01-2017, 06:40 PM
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FYI... On January 1st Management has no scheduled negotiating sessions on our Amendable Contract...
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Old 01-01-2017, 08:13 PM
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I've been reading the forum quite a bit and had a couple questions I was hoping someone could answer.

First, I saw something a several pages back about not being able to fill all the class spots. Can anyone elaborate on this?

Secondly, I was curious how quickly a new hire could hold IAH?

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Old 01-01-2017, 10:12 PM
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Not sure about the class info.

IAH is our most senior base. Junior pilot has been here about 20 months and it quickly gets very senior as you go up the list so you'd sit near the bottom for a long time. If you're hired on the 76 you'd have a 3 year seat lock before you could bid IAH.
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Old 01-01-2017, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by armypilot View Post

First, I saw something a several pages back about not being able to fill all the class spots. Can anyone elaborate on this?
Read more than several pages - the issues here should be no secret. Get familiar so you don't blindly accept the Kool Aid served during the interview. Compare our pay to K4, Allegiant and the proposed pay at Omni. There's a reason we can't fill class slots, but it's better for you to arrive at that conclusion yourself.
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Old 01-02-2017, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by armypilot View Post
I've been reading the forum quite a bit and had a couple questions I was hoping someone could answer.

First, I saw something a several pages back about not being able to fill all the class spots. Can anyone elaborate on this?

Secondly, I was curious how quickly a new hire could hold IAH?

Thanks!
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I can almost hold 747 Captain and I'm not able to hold top half of IAH FOs... I'd have worked Christmas, Thanksgiving and I wouldn't be able to hold any of the 30 hour out and backs...
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Old 01-02-2017, 04:05 PM
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Just a note of correction: Kalitta's new rates as a topped out 767 Captain are now $71 per hour HIGHER than Atlas. By the DOS+3 for Kalitta, a Kalitta 767 Captain will make $110/hr more. Wow. Atlas is digging its own grave if it doesn't rectify this quickly. 2017 will yield massive pilot losses for Atlas. Hiring 4-500, and will be lucky to grow our list from it's current number. Truth.
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Old 01-02-2017, 09:38 PM
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Just a note of correction: Kalitta's new rates as a topped out 767 Captain are now $71 per hour HIGHER than Atlas. By the DOS+3 for Kalitta, a Kalitta 767 Captain will make $110/hr more. Wow. Atlas is digging its own grave if it doesn't rectify this quickly. 2017 will yield massive pilot losses for Atlas. Hiring 4-500, and will be lucky to grow our list from it's current number. Truth.
Yup... If I were at Atlas for less than 2 years I might leave for K4. Less than 1 year? it's a no brainer...
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Old 01-03-2017, 02:02 AM
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About 5 K4 brothers of mine switched to GIANT in the last 2 years, I wish them and you all well, may you get the kick butt contract you deserve.
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