Otterbox

Noob question here but why would one expect to be paid for days spent walking a picket line?

dutch747

The crews were originally scheduled to fly, but when the status quo strike happened and our union said they would honor the strike, the crews instead of flying either walked the line in unity or stayed in the hotel.

Not our crews fault this happened. Company should pay them.

plift

Unfortunately we have no pay protections for lost flights in our contract. They still should have got greater of min guarantee, credit hours or CRT for the month. Did anyone actually have min guarantee reduced for the lost days or CRT withheld when they should have got it? I haven't heard about this anywhere else(FB, union communications, breakfast table gossip, etc).

Flambo

Capt. Diablo finds himself at his third airline and looking over his right shoulder at the new engineer. Talk quickly turns to whether ALPA should be voted in. Captain. Diablo counts himself lucky, having left Eastern with few scars, and learning from Papa S (Cobra Airlines) that pilots stick together, Managements job is to reduce costs (especially pilots) and seeing the world from the left seat of a 3-Holer at 29.

His new engineer states that making the company more profitable will help him keep his job. And as a Colonel in the military, pilots had an obligation to lead the team in making sure the employees focused on the companies profitability, even at the expense of the short term. He felt a union would only get in the way of one team all pulling together.

Capt. Diablo chomped on his cigar (cargo perks) and asked the new FE what his first job was in his first squadron in the AF, he replied Snacko. An honorable and important function highly indicative of a pilots leadership ability, make sure his fellow warriors were fed & watered and if Snako Could...then maybe he could be trusted leading his wingman.

Capt. Diablo then asked his new FE what was expected of him when he went to the flight brief. The new FE replied, get there early and listen. To which Capt. Diablo replied. "Exactly like here, you're the Snacko and you need to sit and listen."

So ends the military to airline pilot transition course. Thank you Capt. Diablo!

samc

So, similar question for a lower 48er. Let's say you are CVG 767 but live in DEN.

Will the company DhD you to Asia direct from DEN if your trip starts with a CVG DhD?
Any difference on the backside of a trip? Assuming no remaining availability days or assigned R1

plift

I was talking about patterns that begin with deadheads on company planes from CVG. They consider the cost of getting you to Asia in that case as what it costs to get you to CVG. They'll only get you something direct from where you live if there are cheaper flights than what it costs them to get you to CVG, so probably not. ANC locals would also be riding on company planes when going direct from ANC so no extra costs for them to do that.

If you have a pattern that starts with a commercial deadhead from your base to an operating location then yes, they will get you a ticket from where you live to the operating location instead. These patterns often go somewhat senior though.

Whiplash6

Hell no. You'll be riding on a company plane eating tuna on wheat for 14 hours.

Tandem46

Depends. If Asia, then Whiplash is correct. But if traveling to Europe, then you'll stand a good chance of skipping CVG and going commercial out of DEN. I live in Denver and have flown directly to Europe several times. Same thing coming home. Sometimes I get sent to Luxembourg to ride the freighter back to HSV and then commercial to DEN and other times I fly directly to DEN on a commercial biz class ticket.

HPIC

You get wheat?! And tuna?! I always see a tray full of ham on white, with the occasional turkey on a roll. It's a little different out of ANC...a couple half wraps and one small PBJ!

Crazy Canuck

I live in DEN and I usually get them to put me on a freighter from LAX or ANC and commercial there to meet it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, it just depends on the schedule.

I once found a coach ticket direct to Asia that was the same price as the gateway flight and a hotel. I convinced them to buy it for me (it was from an alternate location) and that saved me a day at home. 10 hours to NRT in coach will work wonders....