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Old 12-20-2016 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tenacvols
Nah, I didn't throw KF under the bus it was widely known throughout her department. A lot more to the story than I posted but it involved mirroring up my return from Afghanistan with a class date. She and DB helped me out and I showed them my appreciation. The individuals in HR are overworked and under paid just like 90% of the individuals at Atlas.
You might not have thrown her under the bus, but Atlas is a lot different from the military and you should learn that there is a world of difference between being appreciative and civil to workers in other departments and buying favors from them. The loyalty you had for fellow servicemen should now be directed toward the pilot group, NOT anyone from any other department. You will soon find that Atlas management, and unfortunately, the other employee groups that have to follow their lead, will take advantage of you and circumnavigate your contractual pay, schedule limitations, benefits, and work rules. Grievously. Every day. And always to their advantage.

The pilot group here in currently engaged in a war. You should know this from your due diligence. I'm not saying that you have to be rude to anybody, on the contrary, I always treat everyone in other departments with respect, but working any sort of deals, doing them any sort of favors, treating them with any kind of gifts only weakens our position.

There are already far too many old school "company men" who help out Atlas and compromise our strategy. Please start your (short or long) career at Atlas fighting for the right team.

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Old 12-21-2016 | 05:15 AM
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On the bright side we can see the effects of the pilot shortage.

2016 -- one Edible Arrangement = one job. In the 1980s the standard bribe was $10,000 [USAir], which would be a lot of fruit after you adjust for inflation.

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Old 12-21-2016 | 08:03 AM
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and what was that first part of his post that somehow got lost....the inability to fill the 3 upcoming classes next month before it or something???
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Old 12-22-2016 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
You might not have thrown her under the bus, but Atlas is a lot different from the military and you should learn that there is a world of difference between being appreciative and civil to workers in other departments and buying favors from them. The loyalty you had for fellow servicemen should now be directed toward the pilot group, NOT anyone from any other department. You will soon find that Atlas management, and unfortunately, the other employee groups that have to follow their lead, will take advantage of you and circumnavigate your contractual pay, schedule limitations, benefits, and work rules. Grievously. Every day. And always to their advantage.

The pilot group here in currently engaged in a war. You should know this from your due diligence. I'm not saying that you have to be rude to anybody, on the contrary, I always treat everyone in other departments with respect, but working any sort of deals, doing them any sort of favors, treating them with any kind of gifts only weakens our position.

There are already far too many old school "company men" who help out Atlas and compromise our strategy. Please start your (short or long) career at Atlas fighting for the right team.

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Well said, my friend. Years ago when I took off my green bag and put on a civilian uniform this was one of the most difficult adjustments to make. It soon became evident that the two worlds were vastly different. In civilian life the concept of leadership is almost non-existent. We are awash in managers but are almost completely bereft of leaders. The two terms are not synonymous.
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Old 12-26-2016 | 01:15 PM
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It appears that anyone that walked the line with ABX is not being paid. Speculation that management has been withholding this information until the last possible minute to avoid ****ing is off during the final Christmas rally.

I used to recommend this place to friends. It's really gone downhill in the past while. Who knows what will happen in the future. My point is simply buyer beware.
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Old 12-27-2016 | 08:31 AM
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That is extremely lowdown. We work for such scum.
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Old 12-27-2016 | 01:26 PM
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So did they (ATLAS) actually with hold pay for crew members who walked the picket lines in CVG and ILN?
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Old 12-27-2016 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by HercDriver130
So did they (ATLAS) actually with hold pay for crew members who walked the picket lines in CVG and ILN?
No one who walked the line was paid for those days.

My guess is that they will argue no one was docked from min guarantee. It's just like calling in sick! Or doing training. Drops you right down to a pitiful 62 hour guarantee
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Old 12-27-2016 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
No one who walked the line was paid for those days.

My guess is that they will argue no one was docked from min guarantee. It's just like calling in sick! Or doing training. Drops you right down to a pitiful 62 hour guarantee
Noob question here but why would one expect to be paid for days spent walking a picket line?
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Old 12-27-2016 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
Noob question here but why would one expect to be paid for days spent walking a picket line?
The crews were originally scheduled to fly, but when the status quo strike happened and our union said they would honor the strike, the crews instead of flying either walked the line in unity or stayed in the hotel.

Not our crews fault this happened. Company should pay them.
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