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12-16-2016, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ftaba1
I live in ANC and am currently in the hiring pool. I got a call last week from HR with a 777 class offer for SA, which I declined. I was also told that I was slated for the 76. No class dates on that were given but they said they'd call later.
Living in ANC I assumed that I'd most likely get the 74, but that might not be the case. How is the QOL for a junior 76 FO in CVG given the commute from ANC? Also, will I have to pay taxes on the hotel cost in CVG?
Living in ANC I assumed that I'd most likely get the 74, but that might not be the case. How is the QOL for a junior 76 FO in CVG given the commute from ANC? Also, will I have to pay taxes on the hotel cost in CVG?
12-16-2016, 10:23 AM
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Tenacvols: thanks for the quick reply. That's exactly what I plan on asking them. I just don't know if they'll agree to that. So, I'm trying to gather some info for the worst case.
How often do 76 patterns start and end with a deadhead? Is it mostly domestic flying or both? Can someone share an example of your schedule for the 76 out of CVG.
How often do 76 patterns start and end with a deadhead? Is it mostly domestic flying or both? Can someone share an example of your schedule for the 76 out of CVG.
Originally Posted by Tenacvols
You'll have to pay taxes on the air fare to CVG, and the hotel costs associated with your gateway travel only. You might be able to deadhead in on a company aircraft so that would negate the airfare taxes. If I was in your shoes, I'd tell them that I wanted the 747 since I lived in ANC and would defer a class date until they can give me a 747 slot.
12-16-2016, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ftaba1
Tenacvols: thanks for the quick reply. That's exactly what I plan on asking them. I just don't know if they'll agree to that. So, I'm trying to gather some info for the worst case.
How often do 76 patterns start and end with a deadhead? Is it mostly domestic flying or both? Can someone share an example of your schedule for the 76 out of CVG.
How often do 76 patterns start and end with a deadhead? Is it mostly domestic flying or both? Can someone share an example of your schedule for the 76 out of CVG.
A few patterns start with DHs, especially to NRT/ICN for the NRT-SYD and TPE runs. But the bulk of the fleet is in CVG, doing domestic night freight hub turns. Lines can be pure international, pure domestic or both. I've seen some surprisingly short patterns that involve going all the way to Asia and then DH home. It'll depend largely on your seniority, and even then, they can change your pattern on a whim. Movement should be steady on both airframes, short term. On the 747, as FOs upgrade to 767 CA and leave, and for growth on the 767, plus normal attrition, which is steadily increasing.
12-16-2016, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ftaba1
Tenacvols: thanks for the quick reply. That's exactly what I plan on asking them. I just don't know if they'll agree to that. So, I'm trying to gather some info for the worst case.
12-16-2016, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ftaba1
I live in ANC and am currently in the hiring pool. I got a call last week from HR with a 777 class offer for SA, which I declined. I was also told that I was slated for the 76. No class dates on that were given but they said they'd call later.
Living in ANC I assumed that I'd most likely get the 74, but that might not be the case. How is the QOL for a junior 76 FO in CVG given the commute from ANC? Also, will I have to pay taxes on the hotel cost in CVG?
Living in ANC I assumed that I'd most likely get the 74, but that might not be the case. How is the QOL for a junior 76 FO in CVG given the commute from ANC? Also, will I have to pay taxes on the hotel cost in CVG?
She mentioned the SA Class on December 22 and I also
Declined.
She told me that the classes that she would be working on after
Staffing the SA Class on December 22 was:
- One 747 Class in January 2017, One 767 Class in February 2017
and One 747 Class in March 2017.
Seems like you might want to call up KF, and ask her if you can
Be considered for a 747 Class!
But, You DIDN'T HEAR THIS FROM ME!
😉👍🏾
12-16-2016, 11:18 PM
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Good on you all for resisting the SA 777 class. I encourage all to do the same.
Also, be very aware of the realities of a new hire here. Min guarantee is painfully real. Many cannot afford to take vacation. And you will be awarded an 80 hour line only to lose it to scheduling's whims and make 62 hour guarantee. You will also have to do training on your days off or make 62 hour gaurantee.
On the flip side, you're joining some of the best people in the industry and will enjoy the travel you will get to do. So welcome.
Also, be very aware of the realities of a new hire here. Min guarantee is painfully real. Many cannot afford to take vacation. And you will be awarded an 80 hour line only to lose it to scheduling's whims and make 62 hour guarantee. You will also have to do training on your days off or make 62 hour gaurantee.
On the flip side, you're joining some of the best people in the industry and will enjoy the travel you will get to do. So welcome.
12-16-2016, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ftaba1
I live in ANC and am currently in the hiring pool. I got a call last week from HR with a 777 class offer for SA, which I declined. I was also told that I was slated for the 76. No class dates on that were given but they said they'd call later.
Living in ANC I assumed that I'd most likely get the 74, but that might not be the case. How is the QOL for a junior 76 FO in CVG given the commute from ANC? Also, will I have to pay taxes on the hotel cost in CVG?
Living in ANC I assumed that I'd most likely get the 74, but that might not be the case. How is the QOL for a junior 76 FO in CVG given the commute from ANC? Also, will I have to pay taxes on the hotel cost in CVG?
There are oodles of reasons to not work here. However, if you're dead set on it, don't let getting offered the 767 to necessarily be a deal breaker.
12-17-2016, 12:13 AM
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On the 76, if you can bid a line of Asia flying, they pattern you to deadhead out of CVG day one and deadhead back to CVG by your last day. If you live in Anchorage you can typically deadhead straight from there on flights that depart later and get back sooner than your awarded pattern out of CVG. 74 Is definitely ideal for an Anchorage local but there are ways to make the 76 work out ok.
12-17-2016, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Tenacvols
You'll have to pay taxes on the air fare to CVG, and the hotel costs associated with your gateway travel only. You might be able to deadhead in on a company aircraft so that would negate the airfare taxes. If I was in your shoes, I'd tell them that I wanted the 747 since I lived in ANC and would defer a class date until they can give me a 747 slot.
12-17-2016, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by plift
On the 76, if you can bid a line of Asia flying, they pattern you to deadhead out of CVG day one and deadhead back to CVG by your last day. If you live in Anchorage you can typically deadhead straight from there on flights that depart later and get back sooner than your awarded pattern out of CVG. 74 Is definitely ideal for an Anchorage local but there are ways to make the 76 work out ok.
I'm often checking flightaware out of curiosity and never see the 767 doing anything but domestic and occasional Europe.. do they block tracking some flights?
No biggie, just curious..
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