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Unfortunately we have no pay protections for lost flights in our contract. They still should have got greater of min guarantee, credit hours or CRT for the month. Did anyone actually have min guarantee reduced for the lost days or CRT withheld when they should have got it? I haven't heard about this anywhere else(FB, union communications, breakfast table gossip, etc).
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Well said, my friend. Years ago when I took off my green bag and put on a civilian uniform this was one of the most difficult adjustments to make. It soon became evident that the two worlds were vastly different. In civilian life the concept of leadership is almost non-existent. We are awash in managers but are almost completely bereft of leaders. The two terms are not synonymous.
His new engineer states that making the company more profitable will help him keep his job. And as a Colonel in the military, pilots had an obligation to lead the team in making sure the employees focused on the companies profitability, even at the expense of the short term. He felt a union would only get in the way of one team all pulling together.
Capt. Diablo chomped on his cigar (cargo perks) and asked the new FE what his first job was in his first squadron in the AF, he replied Snacko. An honorable and important function highly indicative of a pilots leadership ability, make sure his fellow warriors were fed & watered and if Snako Could...then maybe he could be trusted leading his wingman.
Capt. Diablo then asked his new FE what was expected of him when he went to the flight brief. The new FE replied, get there early and listen. To which Capt. Diablo replied. "Exactly like here, you're the Snacko and you need to sit and listen."
So ends the military to airline pilot transition course. Thank you Capt. Diablo!
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So, similar question for a lower 48er. Let's say you are CVG 767 but live in DEN.
Will the company DhD you to Asia direct from DEN if your trip starts with a CVG DhD?
Any difference on the backside of a trip? Assuming no remaining availability days or assigned R1
Will the company DhD you to Asia direct from DEN if your trip starts with a CVG DhD?
Any difference on the backside of a trip? Assuming no remaining availability days or assigned R1
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I was talking about patterns that begin with deadheads on company planes from CVG. They consider the cost of getting you to Asia in that case as what it costs to get you to CVG. They'll only get you something direct from where you live if there are cheaper flights than what it costs them to get you to CVG, so probably not. ANC locals would also be riding on company planes when going direct from ANC so no extra costs for them to do that.
If you have a pattern that starts with a commercial deadhead from your base to an operating location then yes, they will get you a ticket from where you live to the operating location instead. These patterns often go somewhat senior though.
If you have a pattern that starts with a commercial deadhead from your base to an operating location then yes, they will get you a ticket from where you live to the operating location instead. These patterns often go somewhat senior though.
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Hell no. You'll be riding on a company plane eating tuna on wheat for 14 hours.
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Depends. If Asia, then Whiplash is correct. But if traveling to Europe, then you'll stand a good chance of skipping CVG and going commercial out of DEN. I live in Denver and have flown directly to Europe several times. Same thing coming home. Sometimes I get sent to Luxembourg to ride the freighter back to HSV and then commercial to DEN and other times I fly directly to DEN on a commercial biz class ticket.
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I once found a coach ticket direct to Asia that was the same price as the gateway flight and a hotel. I convinced them to buy it for me (it was from an alternate location) and that saved me a day at home. 10 hours to NRT in coach will work wonders....

Hell, so does 90% of the catering we are given.
Except that it undercuts the whole biz or better requirement for international DHs. Coming home from Asia, you can waive whatever you want to get home early. But be careful about making special arrangements going to work. At the least, run stuff like that past the Travel Committee first.
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