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Old 09-18-2016, 04:50 AM
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There are only a small number of people making good money at Atlas. They are very senior, they work a lot of extra days, and they manipulate the system. Most of us are not in that group.

As a 747 captain, I will be lucky to break $160K this year. You earn every penny at this outfit.
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Old 09-18-2016, 09:25 AM
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That does seem low compared with he legacies, but it certainly beats whatever the regionals are paying.... I'd still give Atlas a go if the legacies never called.
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Old 09-18-2016, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Duesenflieger View Post
That does seem low compared with he legacies, but it certainly beats whatever the regionals are paying.... I'd still give Atlas a go if the legacies never called.

I've been here long enough to receive 13 paychecks reporting a whopping GROSS income of $19,858.55 for the year.

Let that sink in for a minute. I will receive 11 more paychecks before I go to second year pay. It can't be stressed enough to know what you're getting yourself into, understand the training here is not great, and you're going to hit the line feeling like you don't know nearly enough to do the job. The learning curve is steep and the pay for the work you are doing is horrendously low for first year considering the equipment you're flying, the destinations you're going, and the level of responsibility that you have.

I'm not kidding when I say that after 6 months on property you can be the most senior FO on the flight deck. Even if you have thousands of PIC hours coming into this job, relieving the captain for a break and realizing that the two guys up front have less than a year's worth of experience combined is pretty intimidating.....
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Old 09-18-2016, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BYOB View Post
I've been here long enough to receive 13 paychecks reporting a whopping GROSS income of $19,858.55 for the year.

Let that sink in for a minute. I will receive 11 more paychecks before I go to second year pay. It can't be stressed enough to know what you're getting yourself into, understand the training here is not great, and you're going to hit the line feeling like you don't know nearly enough to do the job. The learning curve is steep and the pay for the work you are doing is horrendously low for first year considering the equipment you're flying, the destinations you're going, and the level of responsibility that you have.

I'm not kidding when I say that after 6 months on property you can be the most senior FO on the flight deck. Even if you have thousands of PIC hours coming into this job, relieving the captain for a break and realizing that the two guys up front have less than a year's worth of experience combined is pretty intimidating.....
I classed up on March 14th and I just checked my pay stub. Gross income, including my medical opt out of $1,145.87, is $16,247.20.
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Old 09-19-2016, 09:16 AM
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Pay is ridiculously low- most won't even break 20k for the first year with this OE backlog. And the second year offers no relief.

Attrition is through the roof and it seems a contract is years away.

Buyer beware.
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Old 09-19-2016, 09:34 AM
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A regional FO friend of mine asked if I would promote him at Atlas. I did my sincerest to discourage him for the simple fact that coming here you are stepping in to a big time labor dispute. You will have to fight, quite possibly to the death and there is no room for riding coat tails or sideline standing. Its not an environment I would ever want a friend to experince even if it is for a stepping stone.
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Old 09-19-2016, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by WacoQCF View Post
To new applicants; the next interview session is Sept 28th-30th in NY; they have not confirmed when the October interviews will be.
Anyone invited to the interview on Sep 29th in NY - let's meet up. I plan on arriving to White Planes around 6 pm on the 28th. PM me.
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Old 09-19-2016, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ftaba1 View Post
Anyone invited to the interview on Sep 29th in NY - let's meet up. I plan on arriving to White Planes around 6 pm on the 28th. PM me.
Be it Atlas, Polar, Etihad, etc., I think that all of our planes have some kind of paint scheme these days. Even if we had any all white planes, you probably will never see them in HPN.
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Old 09-19-2016, 09:52 AM
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Sorry.....couldn't resist.

Good luck!
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Old 09-21-2016, 06:20 AM
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Predictably the institutional stock holders in AAWH voted to allow Amazon to take over our futures.
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