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Old 10-01-2016 | 06:16 AM
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K4 new contract ,if ratified 101$ first year, 16 days out max , no involuntary extensions, God bless them , I hope you gents do as well with your next contract, you deserve the best too !!!
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Old 10-01-2016 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by runsky42
Can any new hires tell us what real first year pay is once you complete training? At a job fair last week HR said 95k is realistic.
I've been here 5 years this month and haven't made more than $95k/year yet.
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Old 10-01-2016 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by runsky42
Can any new hires tell us what real first year pay is once you complete training? At a job fair last week HR said 95k is realistic.
Not a chance. I've averaged about $6k a month gross pay since completing OE. I don't do VX(that's what open time/overtime is called here), I bid lines with the days off that I want, and take what comes.

Even if you wanted to fly VX trips, as a junior guy you wouldn't be able to get them most likely. So far everybody I have come across doing VX, both Captains and FOs, have been very senior.
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Old 10-01-2016 | 01:07 PM
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Take note potential applicants: While virtually every other airline is actively negotiating & signing industry standard/leading new TAs with their pilots that adequately reflect the pilot market - this Lorenzo-style management team here willfully ignores reality, stonewalls and condescends at every possible turn, obsessively fills their own golden parachutes & now apparently has HR making up shiite to lure gullible applicants. They are resorting to actively lying to the dwindling supply of new recruits in order to keep the wheels from coming off. Don't fall for it. Run tf away. Did you hear about the 10 (or was it 11) Atlas captains who were all standing in line at the job fair waiting to talk to another airline right next to the Atlas table? Think about that. I've been here for over a decade and cannot in good conscience recommend anyone coming as it stands now. The planes should all have hazmat stickers on the outside of the cockpit doors for being toxic to your career/earnings/health/sanity. It doesn't have to be this way but sadly it is.

Ps- At the next job fair, ask the HR rep about their policy regarding suing widows for their deceased spouses' 401k money. Then stand back and look for the uncontrolled twitch in their eye, sudden stuttering, and noticeable change in body language, you won't have to look hard to spot the tells. The Death of Frank O?Donnell | AtlasFacts.org This metal screw found in our crew catering seems pretty symbolic these days. Atlas Air Catering | AtlasFacts.org. (None of this is new, it's all widely & publicly available knowledge - but it bears repeating for those struggling with reading comprehension problems due to shiny-big-jet-derangement-syndrome). The more you know...
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Old 10-01-2016 | 03:35 PM
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"Hey guys, gals,
Is there anybody out there who passed the initial test and DIDN'T get a call for an interview?

Also, do they use any other means to invite you to an interview besides a phone call?"

Originally Posted by Tenacvols
Smoke Signals...
Does anybody want to give it a pass at it with something little more constructive than that?

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Old 10-01-2016 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Atrasaty
Double your money and work fewer days......Kalitta is hiring.
How about quadruple your money and work fewer days! ...so does FedEx, Southwest and Delta
If Kalitta is passing on applicants with thousands upon thousands of hours of international experience and 747 rating, what's your point sir?
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Old 10-01-2016 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vano
"Hey guys, gals,
Is there anybody out there who passed the initial test and DIDN'T get a call for an interview?
It happens. Guys fall through the cracks sometimes. There was a guy a while back who passed the interview and then waited in the pool for 1.5 years, tried multiple times to make contact, and by the time they called, had moved on.
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Old 10-02-2016 | 01:32 AM
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95k first year is pie in the sky, I have yet to break 100k after 5 years completed. I suppose it could be possible if you did nothing but work overtime second year.
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Old 10-02-2016 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by vano
How about quadruple your money and work fewer days! ...so does FedEx, Southwest and Delta
If Kalitta is passing on applicants with thousands upon thousands of hours of international experience and 747 rating, what's your point sir?
My point was blatantly obvious......yours not so much.....so if you please.....what's your point sir?
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Old 10-02-2016 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold
Wait. Hold the phone..
You're telling me, they need you in Dubai. They buy you a ticket to get there so you can do your job. And they CHARGE you the tax?
Ok, I'll stop working on my Atlas app.
No imputed income is only between Gateway City and Your Base.
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