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Old 07-14-2017 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
That's a joke... I bet there are 100 747 pilots who'll be leaving for greener pastures between now and January 1st. The training center will have to be at Max Capacity to tread water for the 1st quarter of 2018 at this point. I could see them scaling back and putting some Sim instructors out on the line but, in all honesty is this a troll?
Not a joke. Hiring is always feast/famine here. But look at it practically - they've hired 100 747 guys in the last 12 weeks alone. The last bid package had @ 100 guys already waiting for/on OE (both fleets/seats). MIA can churn them out, but the weak link has always been OE. Last year, the 767 got so backed up new hires waited at much as 5 months at home after training before seeing a jet. Looks like it's the 747's turn.

All it means is that they've stopped for now. As with anything Atlas, that can change in 5 minutes.
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Old 07-14-2017 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlasPilot1
That quote is from the company published interpretation of the actual tax law.........which is not accurate and is a dated document written before the last contract.

If the union failed to help you on this, contact the lead steward or vice exco pp....they should help!!!

I fought this battle years ago, won, and haven't had any issues since. R2 at a base hotel is NOT imputable. Again, if you are being imputed keep fighting it, keep going up the chain in the union if your not getting the answer you need. I have taken R2 at my base many times (and I live there btw, but take the hotel anyways) and do not get imputed since I fought back. Keep fighting it.

Good luck.

And yes, the inconsistency and misapplication of these laws is another reason one should think twice before coming here vs.holding out for something else.
Are you eligible for "Gateway"? I.e. Do you live within 130 miles of your base? If you're not eligible for gateway, then by defenition you can't be imputed. Yours is then a pretty unique situation.
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Old 07-15-2017 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by captainv
Not a joke. Hiring is always feast/famine here. But look at it practically - they've hired 100 747 guys in the last 12 weeks alone. The last bid package had @ 100 guys already waiting for/on OE (both fleets/seats). MIA can churn them out, but the weak link has always been OE. Last year, the 767 got so backed up new hires waited at much as 5 months at home after training before seeing a jet. Looks like it's the 747's turn.

All it means is that they've stopped for now. As with anything Atlas, that can change in 5 minutes.
I could see that if they stopped hiring on the 747 for a month or two to get everyone through the training pipeline, but they'd have to hire for first quarter of next year after that. We'll be losing at least 30 a month starting in January... At least. We're losing between 20-30 now with United not even hiring. There's been at least 3 Atlas guys in every Delta, United, FedEx, UPS, and American class this year according to leadership...
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Old 07-20-2017 | 05:18 AM
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Anyone know when Atlas will be at a job fair? I'd like to talk to someone in person.
Also, does someone have Kathy's email address?
Thx.
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Old 07-21-2017 | 07:53 AM
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Searched the thread but information was from 2012. Any idea on how senior MIA is? How long to hold it? Is it both 747/767?
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Old 07-21-2017 | 09:47 AM
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MIA is only a 747 base. Not sure about seniority, but latest is that the remainder of the classes for 2017 are for the 767.

767 bases are CVG and JFK, CVG being junior, and by far where the majority of the pilots are based.
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Old 07-21-2017 | 09:50 AM
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Searched the thread but information was from 2012. Any idea on how senior MIA is? How long to hold it? Is it both 747/767?
Miami is the 2nd most senior base on the FO and CA side. There is no 767 base. You could probably hold it after a year but to give you an idea last year when I was based there as a 5 year FO I almost had to work Christmas. You'd be given a schedule for around a year. As a Captain you're looking at 7 or 8 years to be the last Captain IF attrition/growth rates continue.
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Old 07-21-2017 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
Yes the company does "own" you for 17 days but when I was based in ANC I regularly scored plenty of days on in ANC. Someone living in base at ANC would be able to do the same and it would be a good deal for them. There aren't many people who already live there and most Atlas bases do spit you out and you never return to base.
Hello All and thanks in advance. I just got the call to come interview and was told they are only hiring for the 767. I currently live in Anchorage and was kind of hoping to be based there!

With that being said I am trying to get an idea of what life would be like on the 76 living in ANC.

How does gateway travel work? Would I travel on day 1 and home (home being ANC) on day 17? Or will I essentially be working 19 days on because of travel on either side?

Is it possible to bid over to the 74 from the 76?

Any advice is appreciated!

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Old 07-21-2017 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by AKNGPilot
Hello All and thanks in advance. I just got the call to come interview and was told they are only hiring for the 767. I currently live in Anchorage and was kind of hoping to be based there!

With that being said I am trying to get an idea of what life would be like on the 76 living in ANC.

How does gateway travel work? Would I travel on day 1 and home (home being ANC) on day 17? Or will I essentially be working 19 days on because of travel on either side?

Is it possible to bid over to the 74 from the 76?

Any advice is appreciated!

You'd be essentially gone 19 days if you were to do a 17 day pattern and 21 days if you had two smaller patterns in a month.

You'd be seat locked on the 76 for 3 years. Your first year would definitely be hell, if not all first 3.
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Old 07-21-2017 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiplash6
You'd be essentially gone 19 days if you were to do a 17 day pattern and 21 days if you had two smaller patterns in a month.

You'd be seat locked on the 76 for 3 years. Your first year would definitely be hell, if not all first 3.
That sounds pretty awful.... sounds like I will be turning down the interview unless there is hope for the 747.
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