HPIC

I was referring to just classroom time, not SITs. Sounds like it’s still the same.

The 767 program has all the same CBT’s, but then about 2 weeks of classroom systems training as well. The 747 program was designed and approved when the vast majority of pilots coming in the door were current/qualified in the 747 or at least a ton of time in widebodies already. It never evolved from there as experience levels plummeted. They just tack on additional sims/class at the end of training when there’s a specific problem to address. For instance…It was only a few years ago they added a 4 hour session with nothing but landings after your type ride…and that was only because of, as I recall, about $12mil in damage done in about a year from hard landings. Half of that was on a single -8 in, I believe, Quito.

dera

In my experience, it is an easier training program than what regionals have. I felt it was designed for pilots who have never flown glass or FMS before. My regional and 135 training programs were much more challenging than Atlas.

N19906

I was just wondering how organized HR is. Is there an “average” response time? Are they swamped for the size of their office vs. workload?
I put in an app about six weeks ago online and attended a meet & greet last month, and was able to hand my resume to a company rep.
But so far, just crickets…

(Fairly well qualified. +10K TT, +4K turbine PIC. All multi.)

heavymetal101

There is no rhyme or riddle on getting a response. Some wait days some wait months and are equally qualified. Best bet is for an internal to recommend you and that way they pull the resume that way for you. While they need every pilot they can get it seems they’re being unpredictably selective.

Egg320

Thats the funny thing, before Covid they were so desperate it was not funny, then for basically the last 2 years things calmed down a little but still needed pilots now post pandemic if you want to call it that they will be more desperate than ever.

They know pilots will leave, others will go Brown or purple if given the option, then there are those that go to the majors so Atlas really cannot afford to be too selective or take too long either yet here we are watching them do exactly that.

The situation is only going to go from very bad to far worse now. They are not filling classes and within 12 months I suspect they will be in real trouble trying to get pilots at all and classes will be no more than 3 or 4, maybe I’m wrong but it sure looks to be going that way.

Of course maybe management have a plan we are just not aware of but it seems very unlikely.

akfrtdwg 57

Of course they have a plan. RD addressed a class shortly after the new CBA. Talked to two guys that were there and their stories were the same. They recognize the contract is crap. But we were a profitable small company before and if need be they’ll shrink the airline to become profitable again. He also didn’t rule out downgrades if necessary to achieve that. And before someone goes and says they are just playing a game to lower expectations. To what end and what gain? They have none. Just telling people the way it is.

Egg320

Well then that’s nothing short of depressing? Why would you want to basically collapse the company just to have to rebuild? Everyone and I mean everyone loses with that scenario. Hopefully it does not go that far.

Atlas could truly be one of the great aviation companies if they just let it happen.

N19906

Thanks.
I’m just sitting here trying to decide how much time I can afford to wait before I need to start chasing other outfits. While every company has its bad points, they really tick all the boxes for me.
<…sigh…>

Swakid8

If you know anyone on the inside, have them submit a LOR.

Elevation

We talk about how they need to improve our compensation in order to staff. They counter by saying we're not needed to keep the company profitable. It's the same old song and dance. I'd pay more attention to what people are doing rather than what people are saying. Of course if I was such a smart guy I wouldn't be where I'm at. So maybe ignore me? I don't know.