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Old 11-24-2021, 11:13 PM
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Atlas over Kalitta?
Atlas by a country mile.
Kalitta is 1/4 size.
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Old 11-24-2021, 11:35 PM
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You are correct that I would not go into too much of my personal situation, probably already wrote too much. The future is impossible to predict. I want to fly international like I did in the past, I do not mean North America and some islands. Europe, Asia, Middle East, etc. Sure I can apply to other Big 121 pax and do the international flying, but I would never be able to do it as a wide body Captain, only as an FO, too large of a pilot group to reach to my seniorty before retiring.

FedEx and UPS is great but again you will be flying domestic for a while before getting to fly international and you will have to revert to flying domestic again once you upgrade. Of course, FedEx and UPS is the top tear and I would try them too, but I actually like the ACMI type of flying. I like to commute or travel to work once and then have a bunch of days off and never worry about commuting if needed. I like the idea that as a junior pilot I can still fly to great destinations without waiting for your seniority to get to a certain % to be able to do it (FedEx (unless you are base in Colongne Germany, HK is gone... move to OAK), UPS, and the big pax... you will not have that chance, you have to wait for a long time). Plus, I Iike the fact that I do not need to worry about the boxes in the back, only the specific haz mat/items that I need to worry about. Pax, you have a very long list to worry about and then some.

To answer some of your questions without being too specific: My current job has some good protections, such as the medical situation you spoke off. Altas seem to be very short on this area based on what you wrote. I have no problem slinging gear for the other guy. I would not bid 73 Captain, I would wait for the 747, 777, or 767.

Again, the pros and cons is there. It is up to me to decide if it is worth taking the leap?

Money is very important. But being truely happy is also important. I just do not want to have regrets when I retire and look back.
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Old 11-25-2021, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyFlyer View Post
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You are correct that I would not go into too much of my personal situation, probably already wrote too much. The future is impossible to predict. I want to fly international like I did in the past, I do not mean North America and some islands. Europe, Asia, Middle East, etc. Sure I can apply to other Big 121 pax and do the international flying, but I would never be able to do it as a wide body Captain, only as an FO, too large of a pilot group to reach to my seniorty before retiring.

FedEx and UPS is great but again you will be flying domestic for a while before getting to fly international and you will have to revert to flying domestic again once you upgrade. Of course, FedEx and UPS is the top tear and I would try them too, but I actually like the ACMI type of flying. I like to commute or travel to work once and then have a bunch of days off and never worry about commuting if needed. I like the idea that as a junior pilot I can still fly to great destinations without waiting for your seniority to get to a certain % to be able to do it (FedEx (unless you are base in Colongne Germany, HK is gone... move to OAK), UPS, and the big pax... you will not have that chance, you have to wait for a long time). Plus, I Iike the fact that I do not need to worry about the boxes in the back, only the specific haz mat/items that I need to worry about. Pax, you have a very long list to worry about and then some.

To answer some of your questions without being too specific: My current job has some good protections, such as the medical situation you spoke off. Altas seem to be very short on this area based on what you wrote. I have no problem slinging gear for the other guy. I would not bid 73 Captain, I would wait for the 747, 777, or 767.

Again, the pros and cons is there. It is up to me to decide if it is worth taking the leap?

Money is very important. But being truely happy is also important. I just do not want to have regrets when I retire and look back.
Sounds fair, seems like you know what you want. I agree with TiredSoul that I’d take the bigger company.

Best of luck with the call and the choice (if you have it).

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Old 11-25-2021, 07:20 AM
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Thanks!

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Old 11-25-2021, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SkyFlyer View Post
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You are correct that I would not go into too much of my personal situation, probably already wrote too much. The future is impossible to predict. I want to fly international like I did in the past, I do not mean North America and some islands. Europe, Asia, Middle East, etc. Sure I can apply to other Big 121 pax and do the international flying, but I would never be able to do it as a wide body Captain, only as an FO, too large of a pilot group to reach to my seniorty before retiring.

FedEx and UPS is great but again you will be flying domestic for a while before getting to fly international and you will have to revert to flying domestic again once you upgrade. Of course, FedEx and UPS is the top tear and I would try them too, but I actually like the ACMI type of flying. I like to commute or travel to work once and then have a bunch of days off and never worry about commuting if needed. I like the idea that as a junior pilot I can still fly to great destinations without waiting for your seniority to get to a certain % to be able to do it (FedEx (unless you are base in Colongne Germany, HK is gone... move to OAK), UPS, and the big pax... you will not have that chance, you have to wait for a long time). Plus, I Iike the fact that I do not need to worry about the boxes in the back, only the specific haz mat/items that I need to worry about. Pax, you have a very long list to worry about and then some.

To answer some of your questions without being too specific: My current job has some good protections, such as the medical situation you spoke off. Altas seem to be very short on this area based on what you wrote. I have no problem slinging gear for the other guy. I would not bid 73 Captain, I would wait for the 747, 777, or 767.

Again, the pros and cons is there. It is up to me to decide if it is worth taking the leap?

Money is very important. But being truely happy is also important. I just do not want to have regrets when I retire and look back.
Don't be to sure you would would be stuck on domestics at FedEx until you get some seniority. New hires are bidding and getting the 777. More and more 767 are being added to the international routes and many are ETOPS, All are available for bidding to new hires
I noticed some are suggesting Atlas over Kalitta. Kalitta is an airline, Atlas an outfit.
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Old 11-25-2021, 08:14 AM
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Kalitta is an airline, Atlas an outfit.
Excuse me? What?
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Old 11-26-2021, 12:24 AM
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If you have quite a bit of time left in your career do the Purple/Brown transition no doubt, especially with dependents in tow or a stage 5 clinger situation you must cater too. All of my friends who have ventured off miss our flying but do not complain about compensation nor schedules at their new outfits, granted everyone pays their dues normally when hitting the reset. Even if international with aforementioned mentioned giants, there diversity abroad pales in comparison. We just opened the MEM base which is just a very small taste of what they do or how they do it, but nevertheless just ask folks there and many are wishing they hadn’t and are bidding out as soon as possible. If your doing that Groundhog Day (s), then you should be paid accordingly as they are.
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Old 11-27-2021, 01:46 AM
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How many checkride failures is too many to be hired by ATLAS? What is the chances of getting hired on a 737 at ATP mins?
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Old 11-27-2021, 05:36 AM
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How many checkride failures is too many to be hired by ATLAS? What is the chances of getting hired on a 737 at ATP mins?
I don't think your question can be answered by someone on this forum. The only way to find out is to apply. There are many variables in check-ride failures and flying experience. How you present/explain your given situation can make a difference in being selected, or not.
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Old 11-27-2021, 05:37 AM
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I was hired at 1503h on the 737, thank you COVID!. Zero regrets.
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