Atlas Air Hiring
07-31-2011 | 04:05 AM
#1911
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From: Starting 747-400 training at Atlas on August 1st
I apologize if I didn't extrapolate the right information from reading the post immediately prior to my original. I suppose the new hire number you posted was for new hires this year remaining. I've had my app in at Atlas for a number of years, but only recently began researching the company again. if I hadn't read your post, I wouldn't have known to ask anything about the 767s. I'm qualified on that aircraft, thus my peaked interest in Atlas.
I'm five airlines into this game and have been both FO and captain many times. To assume you figured enough out from four or five lines of a person's first post to justify a response like that was indeed condescending. Meanwhile, I'm slowly chewing through the thread trying to learn about yet another company.
I've been beat around and furloughed and flown with enough self-righteous first officers and captains to be a bit numb to most things, but really? Mine was an innocent question, for which my common sense and motivation was insulted with a rant better suited to a high school career day. I've heard the we hire captains speech many times before. If the call comes hopefully I'll be ready the same way I have been for other carriers I worked at; until then - it's just another day listening to people thump their chests.
I'm five airlines into this game and have been both FO and captain many times. To assume you figured enough out from four or five lines of a person's first post to justify a response like that was indeed condescending. Meanwhile, I'm slowly chewing through the thread trying to learn about yet another company.
I've been beat around and furloughed and flown with enough self-righteous first officers and captains to be a bit numb to most things, but really? Mine was an innocent question, for which my common sense and motivation was insulted with a rant better suited to a high school career day. I've heard the we hire captains speech many times before. If the call comes hopefully I'll be ready the same way I have been for other carriers I worked at; until then - it's just another day listening to people thump their chests.
Last edited by C17Trap; 07-31-2011 at 04:23 AM.
07-31-2011 | 08:11 AM
#1912
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From: B767 CA
Ok, guys, let's not call each other names (or worse)...we've hired a lot of guys with a lot of experience. That's the marketplace right now.
As for calling a DC8 guy bitter because he has been flying them for a long time...is no different than naming a military guy getting a first civilian job at Atlas.
Let's just move on and give the help that these guys are asking for...first step is to do the basic research about the company, etc. Without reading the entire thread, even with all the chit-chat, one cannot get that kind of information.
And guess what? If a guy waits for that first phone interview to start the research, it just might be too late.
Good luck.
As for calling a DC8 guy bitter because he has been flying them for a long time...is no different than naming a military guy getting a first civilian job at Atlas.
Let's just move on and give the help that these guys are asking for...first step is to do the basic research about the company, etc. Without reading the entire thread, even with all the chit-chat, one cannot get that kind of information.
And guess what? If a guy waits for that first phone interview to start the research, it just might be too late.
Good luck.
07-31-2011 | 08:14 AM
#1913
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From: B767 CA
As for ZED travel, I haven't bought an airline ticket for my family of four in at least 10 years...and why travel on the lowest standby category?
Even if you end up buying tickets, there are some really good deals out there...if you have the time to plan a trip/vacation.
Good luck.
Even if you end up buying tickets, there are some really good deals out there...if you have the time to plan a trip/vacation.
Good luck.
07-31-2011 | 09:45 AM
#1914
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I apologize if I didn't extrapolate the right information from reading the post immediately prior to my original. I suppose the new hire number you posted was for new hires this year remaining. I've had my app in at Atlas for a number of years, but only recently began researching the company again. if I hadn't read your post, I wouldn't have known to ask anything about the 767s. I'm qualified on that aircraft, thus my peaked interest in Atlas.
I'm five airlines into this game and have been both FO and captain many times. To assume you figured enough out from four or five lines of a person's first post to justify a response like that was indeed condescending. Meanwhile, I'm slowly chewing through the thread trying to learn about yet another company.
I've been beat around and furloughed and flown with enough self-righteous first officers and captains to be a bit numb to most things, but really? Mine was an innocent question, for which my common sense and motivation was insulted with a rant better suited to a high school career day. I've heard the we hire captains speech many times before. If the call comes hopefully I'll be ready the same way I have been for other carriers I worked at; until then - it's just another day listening to people thump their chests.
I'm five airlines into this game and have been both FO and captain many times. To assume you figured enough out from four or five lines of a person's first post to justify a response like that was indeed condescending. Meanwhile, I'm slowly chewing through the thread trying to learn about yet another company.
I've been beat around and furloughed and flown with enough self-righteous first officers and captains to be a bit numb to most things, but really? Mine was an innocent question, for which my common sense and motivation was insulted with a rant better suited to a high school career day. I've heard the we hire captains speech many times before. If the call comes hopefully I'll be ready the same way I have been for other carriers I worked at; until then - it's just another day listening to people thump their chests.
You're not the alone that's been snapped at. I read the entire thread, stated that I read the entire thread and was still bashed for asking an impossible question- what are the schedules like? They tried to rip me a new one. I thought what it'd be like flying with some of these guys and asking them to describe a snowflake. That's impossible since they're all different, right? Luckily, one the most helpful people on here posted specific examples of what his schedules have been like in his time at Atlas...so simple.
That said, this thread is the best resource for good info on Atlas. There are enough guys that will provide useful intel without breathing too hard. I sent a few PMs to guys who seemed helpful and it worked. May work for you as well.
07-31-2011 | 01:33 PM
#1915
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From: Ex USAF, ex-ATA , currently Atlas Air 747 CA
I don't know if this is widely used or not, but there is an easy way to find things on this (or any other) thread without having to read every page. At the top right of the thread page there is a button labeled "Search this thread". If, say, you are looking for interview information click that button, type in "interview" and you'll be presented with a list of every entry on the entire thread that has to do with that keyword. Hope this helps!
07-31-2011 | 10:26 PM
#1916
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From: E145 CA
Yes Talon, that does help. I am in the process of going through the Thread more than a few times. Also thank you 744Driver and thank you C17Trap for your information and your patience. Thank you too to forumname for your input to my question. Greatly appreciated!! I submitted my Res and PAQ exactly 3 weeks ago today. I've been at my Regional now for for over 12 years, CA for 10 years of it, and I haven't interviewed in that time span either. Trying to knock the rust off.
08-01-2011 | 06:03 AM
#1917
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From: B767 CA
KCheese,
All this thread does is to provide some like you that are looking for an edge over the competition...what is wrong with getting that edge here (and other sites) even if you have to put up with tangents?
However, the only way to get that edge is to make yourself available to any and every piece of intel you can gather. Even if you have to deal with said tangents. And even if you have to (sit at a local coffee shop) and read ALL 192 pages (so far)...
Good luck.
All this thread does is to provide some like you that are looking for an edge over the competition...what is wrong with getting that edge here (and other sites) even if you have to put up with tangents?
However, the only way to get that edge is to make yourself available to any and every piece of intel you can gather. Even if you have to deal with said tangents. And even if you have to (sit at a local coffee shop) and read ALL 192 pages (so far)...
Good luck.
Last edited by 744driver; 08-01-2011 at 09:54 AM.
08-01-2011 | 10:55 AM
#1918
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From: E145 CA
KCheese,
All this thread does is to provide some like you that are looking for an edge over the competition...what is wrong with getting that edge here (and other sites) even if you have to put up with tangents?
However, the only way to get that edge is to make yourself available to any and every piece of intel you can gather. Even if you have to deal with said tangents. And even if you have to (sit at a local coffee shop) and read ALL 192 pages (so far)...
Good luck.
All this thread does is to provide some like you that are looking for an edge over the competition...what is wrong with getting that edge here (and other sites) even if you have to put up with tangents?
However, the only way to get that edge is to make yourself available to any and every piece of intel you can gather. Even if you have to deal with said tangents. And even if you have to (sit at a local coffee shop) and read ALL 192 pages (so far)...
Good luck.
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