Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Atlas/Polar (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/atlas-polar/)
-   -   Atlas Air Hiring (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/atlas-polar/51254-atlas-air-hiring.html)

SgtV 08-15-2023 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by crjflyer0023 (Post 3682315)
This is BS. The law of primacy is BS. You can easily remove from your brain what you dont want, and learn the new ways. I've flown the same plane with 3 different airlines with different ways of each, and did not have any problem at all switching it all around.
If you cant do that, maybe you just shouldn't be a pilot.

The fact that you admit the need to remove info from your brain to learn a different technique only reinforces the “LAW” of primacy. It takes effort to undo fundamental learning and retrain the brain. It just so happens that all my years as a weapons and small unit tactics instructor in the military was predicated on teaching fundamentals. Didn’t matter what unit, tier, or branch of service, the primacy of proper fundamentals was the single most important building block to good outcomes on two-way gun ranges. I dare say that your arrogance is dangerous both in my former life as well as in our current lives in aviation.

notthesame 08-15-2023 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by crjflyer0023 (Post 3682315)
This is BS. The law of primacy is BS. You can easily remove from your brain what you dont want, and learn the new ways. I've flown the same plane with 3 different airlines with different ways of each, and did not have any problem at all switching it all around.
If you cant do that, maybe you just shouldn't be a pilot.

Not sure flying the 172 at three different flight schools counts. But ok.

Nuthatch 08-24-2023 11:18 AM

Hi all, I have been very interested in joining Atlas and have been lurking in here for a while. I extremely appreciate all the info and contributions by long- and recent-timers alike. It has been very helpful, and has mostly made me more excited about the prospect of getting on.

I know of pilots going from B1900 straight into the 747, at Atlas even, and a good friend recently went from Twin Otter to 777 at Purple and is doing great. However, this is the first time I have seen this sort of thing regarding Atlas...


Originally Posted by HPIC (Post 3674198)
I don’t think it was an invalid statement. He stated that if it’s his first 121 training that Atlas training might be tough. The Atlas training program when first designed was built for guys with extensive heavy international time. That has changed over the years to accommodate lesser relevant experience levels but it’s still nowhere near where it should be. I’ve been through Atlas training(2 initials and many recurrent events) and training at a Legacy carrier. The Legacy training is FAR better and would be much easier for somebody starting their first 121 experience.

I have 7800+ hours, been with a foreign ACMI company (turboprop) for the last 10 years, but have previous 121 time from the early 2000s including DHC-8. Certainly no heavy international time. And, honestly, I have been out of the US system for a long time. Should I be concerned?

I have no desire for the legacies, as the schedules and commuting would not really work for me at all, and I am used to and prefer having chunks of work followed by chunks of time off. Kalitta is the only other company I am considering at the moment.

Thanks again for the thousands of contributions, which I have combed through most of over the last few months.

Nuthatch 08-24-2023 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad (Post 3589155)
I agree with Dera here, super chill interview process. Make sure you meet the mins and the logbook is in order. They will send a technical study guide and that should cover most of it.

I am hoping to apply soon, but am on a 5 week rotation overseas at my current job. I have decent internet access adequate for online meetings, in case I land an interview while I'm here, but have only my current logbook with me. What exactly is the logbook process, and should I wait till I get home and have the rest of my logbooks, or is that something that is taken care of later?
Many thanks...

BusBoe 08-24-2023 04:02 PM

Can someone explain the process after the phone screening?

How long to wait for an answer... Who is my answers to thier phone screening going to? Et.

Elevation 08-24-2023 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Nuthatch (Post 3687524)
Hi all, I have been very interested in joining Atlas and have been lurking in here for a while. I extremely appreciate all the info and contributions by long- and recent-timers alike. It has been very helpful, and has mostly made me more excited about the prospect of getting on.

I know of pilots going from B1900 straight into the 747, at Atlas even, and a good friend recently went from Twin Otter to 777 at Purple and is doing great. However, this is the first time I have seen this sort of thing regarding Atlas...



I have 7800+ hours, been with a foreign ACMI company (turboprop) for the last 10 years, but have previous 121 time from the early 2000s including DHC-8. Certainly no heavy international time. And, honestly, I have been out of the US system for a long time. Should I be concerned?

I have no desire for the legacies, as the schedules and commuting would not really work for me at all, and I am used to and prefer having chunks of work followed by chunks of time off. Kalitta is the only other company I am considering at the moment.

Thanks again for the thousands of contributions, which I have combed through most of over the last few months.

Airline regulations are very similar from country to country. If you have the right to work in the US, the technical challenges will be minor. You weren't doing B-ATPs or Avro 748s, were you? You mat want to think about the prop to jet transition. Its not difficult, but there are some things you need to think about.

Clue32 08-24-2023 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by BusBoe (Post 3687641)
Can someone explain the process after the phone screening?

How long to wait for an answer... Who is my answers to thier phone screening going to? Et.

7 to 10 days to get an Answer. Interviews via Team's.

Corporate presentation, big group, cameras off, you can type questions at the end.

HR Interview with 1xHR, 1xPilot, maybe 1xUnion Rep. Know what ACMI is and don't lie about failures.

Tech Interview 1x Current or Retired Atlas Captain.

Then you will hear final results in 7 - 10 days... possibly shorter.

You will receive a packet of info for your tech interview along with a slide of topics and terms to discuss. You have enough time to study the info on the packet, so you should know every term. Very low threat Tech Interview. More a case of "do you care enough to have studied. Aviation Interviews . com is a good source for both HR and Tech panels, but be cautious. There are personal opinions and answers based upon prior employer ops specs. Bottom line, review the questions and find the answers in the FAR /AIM, FAA AC's, and weather.gov publications.

HR: Captain shows up drunk, what do you do? (great time to incorporate company values), What is ACMI, why Atlas, what did you do to prepare for the interview, what if delta calls you, who else have you applied for, you are the FO and Pilot Flying durring an emergency...who flies and who does the checklist... would you be offended if the captain takes the controls.

Tech panel: Brief description of current aircraft system. Define SLOP, CRM, TEM. Discussion about route packet, study every bit of ink. My questions pertained to Turbulence ( don't forget about jetstream core and cold side), altitude on a DP, brief an ILS ( don't forget about expected taxi plan), Copilot calls go around while you are min fuel (not emergency fuel) 500 agl and vmc on short final, what do you do.

Ozflyer 08-25-2023 10:12 AM

fleet allocation
 
Hi
I have received an email from Atlas today that I've been offered a CJO, but in the email, they've given me the B747 class date.
747 was the fourth preference for me and I told them in my interview...Do you think I can contact them to change the type or what should I do?As I'd prefer to go for 777 or 737...
any advice/help in that matter ?

dera 08-25-2023 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Ozflyer (Post 3687976)
Hi
I have received an email from Atlas today that I've been offered a CJO, but in the email, they've given me the B747 class date.
747 was the fourth preference for me and I told them in my interview...Do you think I can contact them to change the type or what should I do?As I'd prefer to go for 777 or 737...
any advice/help in that matter ?

Out of curiosity, why on gods earth would you prefer the 737 at Atlas?

Ozflyer 08-25-2023 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3687979)
Out of curiosity, why on gods earth would you prefer the 737 at Atlas?

domestic ops i guess


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:45 PM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands