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Old 10-28-2011, 06:46 AM
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I have a couple of questions for all of you Atlas drivers out there: What do you guys use for headsets and does the company provide any? Thanks for all the great advice throughout this chain. Hopefully we are all getting to the shallow end of the pool.
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:04 AM
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posted on another forum...


"...all of our aircraft have two sets of Jepps on board.

A lot of guys carry the 26 inch PurdyNeat/LuggageWorks bag. A lot also carry the $99 expandable 22 inch from Costco (Kirkland brand) for a lightweight option. I used one of those for about 7 years, and recently bought a 26 inch PNT/LW bag.

All our aircraft have the Telex Airman750 headset on board (and several extra) so you don't need to buy one. I just bought the Sennheiser HMEC26BVK to save what's left of my hearing..."

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Old 10-28-2011, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FailOperational View Post
They said they're hiring rate is something like 60-70% of each interview group... but at times can be 100%
Wow, that's a change from the way that HAD been doing it where 60-70% of the interviewees got the TBNT letter.
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:48 PM
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A buddy of mine that went to the job fair in EWR today said that Atlas announced they plan to hire 60 pilots in 2012
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Old 10-28-2011, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KCheese View Post
12 1/2 yr XJT guy, Res/PAQ in 4 mths on Nov. 10th, preparing for a call soon, I hope... Attending Flt Ops Ewr job fair this Fri. as well.

I have 2 tech ?'s if someone is willing to help me out please:

1. Getting off Nat Tracks, I have two FAA pubs one saying the initial turn is 90* L or R to exit to a 15 nm offset track, & the other pub says the init turn is 45* L or R for the 15nm offset. Which one is correct; I'm thinking it changed in 2010 to 45*?

B. Lateral distance between Tacks? Can't find that one anywhere in any official pub. I'm thinking 30 nm since the 15 nm from above ? is half that distance and that seems "halfway" familiar.

Any help Greatly Appreciated!!!
All I can tell you is that when crossing the Pacific, they went from 90 to 45 degrees a couple of years ago (give or take). It's on the Pacific enroute Jepp chart if you look in the notes and I'm sure it's probably on the NATS chart. You are to join a 15NM offset, either left or right, considering weather, traffic, diversion airport, etc. The primary NOPAC routes are separated by 30NM (if I remember correctly). The same procedure pretty much applies to the daily published PACOTS routes or flex tracks (lat/long to lat/long) as well as Random routes. The spacing between PACOTS tracks is either 50 or 100NM depending upon the day I suppose. I'm sure it's probably the same in the South Pacific, which I don't fly. As far as I know, they went from 90 to 45 degrees to reduce the possibility of overshooting the 15NM offset.

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Old 10-28-2011, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by KCheese View Post
12 1/2 yr XJT guy, Res/PAQ in 4 mths on Nov. 10th, preparing for a call soon, I hope... Attending Flt Ops Ewr job fair this Fri. as well.

I have 2 tech ?'s if someone is willing to help me out please:

1. Getting off Nat Tracks, I have two FAA pubs one saying the initial turn is 90* L or R to exit to a 15 nm offset track, & the other pub says the init turn is 45* L or R for the 15nm offset. Which one is correct; I'm thinking it changed in 2010 to 45*?

B. Lateral distance between Tacks? Can't find that one anywhere in any official pub. I'm thinking 30 nm since the 15 nm from above ? is half that distance and that seems "halfway" familiar.

Any help Greatly Appreciated!!!
The answer to 'B' is 15nm (source: FAA AC 91-70A)
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Old 10-29-2011, 07:07 AM
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From the MNPS Users manual (Documents)

17.3.1 In the North Atlantic MNPS Airspace the lateral separation standard is 60 NM.

13.3.1 The general concept of these Oceanic in-flight contingency procedures is, whenever operationally feasible, to offset from the assigned route by 15 NM and climb or descend to a level which differs from those normally used by 500 ft if below FL410 or by 1000 ft if above FL410.

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13.3.2 The aircraft should leave its assigned route or track by initially turning at least 45° to the right or left whenever this is feasible.

Deviations due to weather are covered in 13.4

The change from 30 to 15NM is to prep for the 30 Nm separation that will eventually be required. You can also look at the NAT message to see the 60 current separation.

Hope this helps. Download the MNPS users manual and it will help
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Old 10-29-2011, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by chip1 View Post
A buddy of mine that went to the job fair in EWR today said that Atlas announced they plan to hire 60 pilots in 2012
Are you sure you heard him right? That's a significant change from the 30ish per month through the end of '12 that's been advertised over and over.
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:10 AM
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If anyone is interested, here is how my OE just went.
-Finished 400 training in MIA on the 30th of Sept. (Started August 1st)
-Observation ride to get pay started on Oct 1st/2nd. MIA-SCL-MIA
-Went home Oct 3rd.
-Oct 14th-Commercial from JAN(my gateway) to ATL to HSV
- Oct 15th, DH to STN then LUX commercial from LUX to AMS
- Oct 17th, DH to DXB to meet my Check Airman to start the OE(2day s off at the JW Marriott
-Oct 19th, Check airman demos first leg into HKK.
-Overnight HKK Novotel Hotel
-Oct 20th, I fly from HKG to ANC
-Oct 23rd, Meet next Check Airman at show time in ANC.
-Oct 23rd, I fly leg from ANC to DNA and from DNA to OSN
-Limo to Incheon (ICN), crew rest for 24 hours
-Oct 25, I fly ICN to KUL, crew rest
-Oct 26th, commercial business class from KUL to SYD, crew rest 24 hours
-Oct 28th, I fly leg from SYD to BKK,
-Oct 28th, Capt flies last leg from BKK to PVG so I can be the PNF. (Check ride-OE and Line Check done)
-Oct 29th, commercial, business class from PVG to HKG Rest at Novotel Hong Kong
-Oct 30th Fly from HKG to ICN, than ICN to ANC.
-Oct 31st Fly Delta back to Jackson Mississippi.
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:30 AM
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yes, thats what my buddy said he heard. 60 for 2012. nobody really knows....
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