744driver

Wow, you sure are well connected...

Pardon my skepticism, but I'll stay on the sidelines for the scenario that you posted, and I'll believe it when (if) it happens.

I'm not questioning your source, or your information, but a healthy dose of skepticism may be warranted here...

Talon1011

Now THAT much I can completely agree with. That has been MatlinPatterson's MO from the start. It's precisely what happened at ATA after our admittedly leadership-challenged management was maneuvered into unloading our MDW gates and LGA landing slots to Southwest. It would seem the MatlinPatterson folks are not in the business of running airlines....they are in the business of artfully trashing them, selling off the pieces, picking the carcass and making a ton of money in the process.

Fishfreighter

Talon,

The people I feel sorry for are the ex-ATA folks who took jobs with NAA only to see it happen all over again...

Fishfreighter

Skepticism is always good. That said, as an Atlas pilot, you're looking pretty good right now. It wouldn't surprise me if the NAA/World people are only offered preferential interviews and not SLI. After all, its another way to dump the senior salaries in favor of lower cost new hires.

Whale Driver

Well, maybe the assets. Why would Atlas want the certificates? Or the longevity that would come with an outright merger? Be careful what you wish for, IMHO.

Fishfreighter

Exactly. They only need the assets. They could, hypothetically, wait in the wings until Global goes Chapter 7 then pounce. However, then there would be more competition for those assets.

Remember, Atlas has already offered to buy NAA once. That's a key point.

744driver

Competition for what? Some beat up 767s when everyone else is opting for 777s (Omni)...so, the 767s would still be available for fairly cheap.

Ok, it's my turn to stir the pot...I've heard that even Atlas is looking at 777s. But then that is nothing new. Every viable company, and even government, has to look at contingencies and opportunities for strategic planning.

This time last year, (before the 767 announcement), a former Management pilot told us (at a breakfast, solve-the-world's-problems, union meeting !!) that the 767 (or equivalent) was being considered for about 10 years. Finally, last year, the stars all lined up and here we are actually operating the light twin (767).

So, another fleet type (777, I hope, and not the A330) is likely long way off...5 years or more.

Since we are spreading rumors, whatever happened to the oldie but goodie about the 767 tankers we were supposed to get?!!

mjte43

Not sure if AAWH will bite on 4 Pratt powered BCF's, They seem to prefer GE,s (when they have the choice)

atpcliff

Atlas is currently operating 747s with P&W power.

cliff
GRB

744driver

That is of course true, Cliff, but they are customer-owned...Boeing, in the case of the 4 B744 LCFs that we operate. I'm not so sure that we would be in the market for P&W-powered 744s if we were to own or even lease them.