Atlas Air Hiring
#6421
The problem with that, capatinv, is that our pilot group is not engaged in the conversation other than the few that post here and elsewhere. I'm thinking that if we encourage a conversation within our own group, those that are already flying for Atlas would feel more a part of the group. And, that puts each of us in a place where we have more stake in our own futures.
#6424
Why are we asking these questions, etc on this forum that was meant for exchanging information about hiring at Atlas?
Did they not issue you a CBA to you? Sorry to be so harsh, but please do some digging in the CBA, or if that is not convenient, write to the Stewards, or even ask on the Pilots' Union site.
Knowing the CBA and living by it is not only a necessity, but helps us all make better decisions every time we show up for a trip. It is high time to get to know this CBA that has been in place for almost two years...I realize many here have only been at Atlas for a short time, but knowing the CBA is actually a very minimum for this (or any union or airline) job.
Did they not issue you a CBA to you? Sorry to be so harsh, but please do some digging in the CBA, or if that is not convenient, write to the Stewards, or even ask on the Pilots' Union site.
Knowing the CBA and living by it is not only a necessity, but helps us all make better decisions every time we show up for a trip. It is high time to get to know this CBA that has been in place for almost two years...I realize many here have only been at Atlas for a short time, but knowing the CBA is actually a very minimum for this (or any union or airline) job.
#6425
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
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I see it differently. For one, you're likely to get an answer more quickly on here. Also, why bother the stewards when any pilot who's been here more than a year can provide the answer?
This thread was instrumental in helping us noobs learn what life at Atlas was all about, so why not be a primary source of info after getting hired? I was a bit surprised about medicals, since my regional paid for all of mine - just one more nugget for people interested in working here to consider.
Sure, we should all read the contract more, but contracts are miserable to actually read (hence the CBAG).
Ask away, I say, in whatever venue you like. We need more pilots asking questions, not less!
This thread was instrumental in helping us noobs learn what life at Atlas was all about, so why not be a primary source of info after getting hired? I was a bit surprised about medicals, since my regional paid for all of mine - just one more nugget for people interested in working here to consider.
Sure, we should all read the contract more, but contracts are miserable to actually read (hence the CBAG).
Ask away, I say, in whatever venue you like. We need more pilots asking questions, not less!
#6426
May be I want the discussion to happen within our group, so that the pilot group turns to our own resources for answers...
I have no issues with providing answers here, but at the same time, we need to take some responsibility for helping our own...and we need to turn to our own for answers.
I have no issues with providing answers here, but at the same time, we need to take some responsibility for helping our own...and we need to turn to our own for answers.
#6427
First time poster in this thread. I admit to have not carefully analyzed all 643 pages but I did go back about a month and have a few questions/clarifications so please don't beat me up too bad if this was asked 50 pages ago.
1. Does Atlas have any love for us pointy nose guys or has previous hiring heavily favored guys from big jets? I know we just put an A-10 driver through PIT who had to leave early for his 747 training at Atlas -- just curious if he's the norm or the exception.
2. Do I understand the basing correctly? Home domicile, they buy you a ticket to a gateway and once at a gateway you're on the clock? I ask this since I love where I live but the airlines don't like San Antonio's crappy 28 gate airport apparently... After 10 moves for me, and 4 schools for my 7th grader I'd REALLY like to never move again. Ever.
3. Your hourly pay seems to be fairly close to the majors, how does that equate to your annual pay?
I've got a bunch of other questions but I'd like to pace myself a bit and also spend some more time reading the thread before I get into any more detail.
Thanks!
1. Does Atlas have any love for us pointy nose guys or has previous hiring heavily favored guys from big jets? I know we just put an A-10 driver through PIT who had to leave early for his 747 training at Atlas -- just curious if he's the norm or the exception.
2. Do I understand the basing correctly? Home domicile, they buy you a ticket to a gateway and once at a gateway you're on the clock? I ask this since I love where I live but the airlines don't like San Antonio's crappy 28 gate airport apparently... After 10 moves for me, and 4 schools for my 7th grader I'd REALLY like to never move again. Ever.
3. Your hourly pay seems to be fairly close to the majors, how does that equate to your annual pay?
I've got a bunch of other questions but I'd like to pace myself a bit and also spend some more time reading the thread before I get into any more detail.
Thanks!
#6428
I'm not an Atlas guy, but you'll get answers to all of your questions by taking the time to read the thread. Sit down with a cup of coffee one morning and spend a couple of hours with it. You'll hear others chime in with a hearty "if you want to work here bad enough, you'll take the time to read the whole thing." Call it a rite of passage, or something.
#6429
2. Do I understand the basing correctly? Home domicile, they buy you a ticket to a gateway and once at a gateway you're on the clock? I ask this since I love where I live but the airlines don't like San Antonio's crappy 28 gate airport apparently... After 10 moves for me, and 4 schools for my 7th grader I'd REALLY like to never move again. Ever.
For example, my domicile is CVG, but I live in San Diego. The vast majority of trips begin in CVG on Day 1, which means I commonly spend my last day off getting to CVG to be in position for work. Unfortunately, rig and per diem don't start accruing until your report time on Day 1, so you're not on the clock for pay purposes on your "commute" day. This is different from actual home-based airlines, which fly you from your home on Day 1.
But yes, the company will buy you a ticket to get you to your domicile (CVG, JFK, LAX, ANC, etc.) from your home (gateway airport). They'll also provide hotel accommodations before you start your pattern. It's really no different than working for a typical scheduled airline, except that there's no battle royale for the jumpseat, or sharing a 3 bedroom apartment with 14 other pilots.
P.S.: Losing a day off only happens if you're starting a trip at your domicile. This month, my trip started in JFK (odd, being that I'm a CVG guy), so my positioning from SAN to JFK was done on Day 1, and was treated as a deadhead (read: rig and per diem were accruing). Clear as mud?
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