Atlas Air Hiring
02-26-2014, 04:39 AM
#7971
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Originally Posted by CandlerKid
You are wasting your breath. The senior guys have ZERO clue about the rest of the industry. The FO's and ex-Polar crews have the majority for the next contract vote, so don't let them get to you. Sadly they don't care if the bottom half of the list were to leave either. They don't think it will affect them. Good luck getting contracts to fly with no pilots to staff the planes.
. The tide is turning 
02-26-2014, 04:42 AM
#7972
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Originally Posted by NightIP
+1...
All of us newer pilots are ready to swing for the fences. I've had a couple 15+ year guys tell me that we'll hurt the company's competitiveness by shooting for better in 2016, though. True story.
All of us newer pilots are ready to swing for the fences. I've had a couple 15+ year guys tell me that we'll hurt the company's competitiveness by shooting for better in 2016, though. True story.
Originally Posted by C5nwhaleguy
...The tide is turning
Solidarity
02-26-2014, 05:39 AM
#7974
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
No one will be racheting down...because of the pilot shortage.
Just found out I can get a direct entry captain job on a great aircraft....would have had 0 chance of this aircraft 5 years ago...
Just found out I can get a direct entry captain job on a great aircraft....would have had 0 chance of this aircraft 5 years ago...
My little sister is a doctor. Most doctors do not make good business decisions. After residency, all of her colleagues took their first offers at their number one choice hospitals. I instructed her to negotiate. Multiple hospitals would take her out to fancy dinners and each would offer her employement. Now she is not some tough negotiator, never even negotiating the purchase of her own car, but she managed to negotiate an extra $100,000 in income over a four year deal. She negotiated away all performance based benchmarks for pay and negotiated for all her student loans to be repayed by the hospital ($200,000 worth in loans). She still was able to get this compensation package at her number one choice hospital.
If I applied to Delta, United, FedEx, UPS, Southwest, etc.; I am certain that these companies would not be waiting in line to buy me dinner in hopes that I would work for them. I am also certain that if I told an interviewer that I would work at their airline if they paid me an additional $25,000 a year for the next four years that interviewer would show me the door.
I would not have a problem if you said there was a shortage of doctors...but pilots, no way!
02-26-2014, 06:42 AM
#7975
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Originally Posted by CandlerKid
.................................................. ............ The FO's and ex-Polar crews have the majority for the next contract vote, so don't let them get to you. .................................................. ................
02-26-2014, 06:52 AM
#7976
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I just read a 737 capt just got an unsolicited job offer to be capt in China...$18.5+/month.last I heard max pay was $12/mo. I also found out I can get falcon 7x capt job over there....3 years ago I had no hopes of that!
And atlas dropped their minimums twice since 2010.
And atlas dropped their minimums twice since 2010.
02-26-2014, 07:36 AM
#7977
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
I just read a 737 capt just got an unsolicited job offer to be capt in China...$18.5+/month.last I heard max pay was $12/mo. I also found out I can get falcon 7x capt job over there....3 years ago I had no hopes of that!
And atlas dropped their minimums twice since 2010.
And atlas dropped their minimums twice since 2010.
02-26-2014, 09:52 AM
#7978
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Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER
I have never heard of a computer scanning system used here for resumes and there is no way to know how the point system (if, indeed, there is one?) works. I think there is a way to get additional names on the PAQ if you have the most up to date Adobe software.
From the many recently hired pilots I have come across in the past 2.5 years, my impression is that there is little emphasis placed on any one particular column of experience/background (with the exception of some current '76 pilots that were fast-tracked when we started that program). There are heavy pilots who are weak in glass/FMS systems. There are regional guys who thrive on 17 day trips and multiple schedule changes. There seems to be no one industry segment that is highly preferred.
Atlas seems to place the most weight on the individual who will thrive under the peculiar conditions we have at Atlas. They want pilots who have done their homework and know a lot about the working conditions here and still really want the job. They also seem to hire a lot of guys who will be easy to get along with in the cockpit during a 16 hour flight.
Sorry to be so vague, but that is the way it appears to me. Of course you should emphasize your strengths whether it be C-5 or RJ time, glass cockpit, ocean crossings, IP, Check Airman, whatever. Just be sure that you have done your homework because the people I know who were not chosen after an interview didn't know the company or didn't know how they would fit in.
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From the many recently hired pilots I have come across in the past 2.5 years, my impression is that there is little emphasis placed on any one particular column of experience/background (with the exception of some current '76 pilots that were fast-tracked when we started that program). There are heavy pilots who are weak in glass/FMS systems. There are regional guys who thrive on 17 day trips and multiple schedule changes. There seems to be no one industry segment that is highly preferred.
Atlas seems to place the most weight on the individual who will thrive under the peculiar conditions we have at Atlas. They want pilots who have done their homework and know a lot about the working conditions here and still really want the job. They also seem to hire a lot of guys who will be easy to get along with in the cockpit during a 16 hour flight.
Sorry to be so vague, but that is the way it appears to me. Of course you should emphasize your strengths whether it be C-5 or RJ time, glass cockpit, ocean crossings, IP, Check Airman, whatever. Just be sure that you have done your homework because the people I know who were not chosen after an interview didn't know the company or didn't know how they would fit in.
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)Ill download the latest adobe and fix my PAQ.
02-26-2014, 11:40 AM
#7980
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Originally Posted by Snickers
Thank you! I have definitely done my homework and know Atlas is one of the top places I would like to go. ( was that too dangerous to say in the middle of a CBA battle?? )
Ill download the latest adobe and fix my PAQ.
)Ill download the latest adobe and fix my PAQ.
Thanks for being patient with the CBA discussion going on...
That said, I also challenge you (and others!!) to find an airline thread here that doesn't get contentious, even confrontational, about the particulars of the agreement with the company!!
Good luck with your application...
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