captainv

Atlas management could probably attempt any maneuver you can think of. However, the Atlas ExCo has made it clear that we will welcome the Southern pilots with open arms, and that anything else will be fought vigorously.

The Southern pilot group is zero threat to the Atlas pilot group, IMO. They have 250-ish pilots. We hired 300 last year alone, and interviewed 160 this month. Once we merge and get the Southern guys under our CBA, they'll need to hire a TON of guys, because our work rules are more restrictive than theirs. Growth/upgrades on the Atlas side will continue due to sheer growth (but I think you're jumping the gun on Amazon), and they'll have to hire just to comply with our rules.

I can't speak for everyone, but the Southern list is complimentary to ours. My seniority would pretty much be the same whether an SLI is done by DOH or relative seniority. And no matter what method is chosen, it's likely we'll be fenced from each other's fleets for a while, perhaps even three years. That's in management's best interest - say we merged and the 777 was declared new equipment. Every Atlas pilot would be freed from a seat lock and it would cause a training nightmare.

And enough with the "concerns" about their pilots. We ain't exactly perfect, either.

There's only one way we come out ahead on this deal: All in. All together.

sandrich

Also figure that half the Southern FOs have 5+ years of seniority, and if I recall Atlas is about a 5 year upgrade? There's another training nightmare. I'd imaging a 3 year seat lock. Whatever 777 flying comes around gets thrown to the Southern side, whatever 747/767 flying comes around gets done by the Atlas side... at least for the immediate future.

Brokenwind

Thanks for the wrap on the subject...

Certainly interesting and exciting times for all parties involved.

There is the potential for a win/win scenario for all, including the Atlas pilot group in their quest for a new contract, strength in numbers...

This could also put Atlas on the map as a destination carreer opportunity

Gnaw

Regarding that earlier post, I'm glad Atlas hires from a diverse group of pilots. There are many regional pilots that I've flown or deadheaded with that do just fine with the Atlas lifestyle.

Treehorn

Apparently everyone being hired is hired because they aren't capable of being hired at the majors later on.

Upntheair27

Lol def not true

QUOTE=Treehorn;2058147]Apparently everyone being hired is hired because they aren't capable of being hired at the majors later on.[/QUOTE]

Treehorn

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That's what they say the COO stated.

900drver

That's what they say the COO stated.[/QUOTE]

A buddy of mine was hired by UAL and atlas this week.... He choose atlas. Wasn't interested in 5 on 3 off 4 on 2 of type for the rest of his life.

MD11Drvr

In my class of 23 in Oct. I can tell you there were only a few outside the typical box to be hired by a Legacy. I being one of them as I do not have a 4 year degree and have not been considered wind resistant for many years now. I have 18 years doing ACMI and the lifestyle of a legacy is not appealing. I will say that if half my class or more is still at Atlas in 5 years it will be their choice as they were all very well qualified with college degrees and good hands. To imply anything less is insulting and wrong. I have friends at nearly every major carrier out there and many miss the ACMI life and talk about the good ole days with fondness and if you're a young man maybe with the years to build a large retirement fund it is worth it. The hopefully enhanced job security of a Major is another reason, but anyone who has been in this business for any length of time knows its a crap shoot for security. In summery there was a very diverse group of New hires in my class and all were good people with good skills and work ethic. Any Airline would be lucky to have them. Just my .02

GunnerV

Does anyone know what day Atlas will be at WIA in Nashville, TN in March? I'm only available that Wednesday, 9 March. Has anyone tried to do a meet and greet at one of these job fairs without a Fast Pass?