Should we be concerned for our future?
03-07-2022 | 07:48 AM
#841
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It's been 2 weeks now and nothing is accomplished. Why is Putin so soft on Ukraine?
03-07-2022 | 08:16 AM
#842
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https://sgp.fas.org/congress/2004/s111904.html
For that matter, does anyone seriously believe that something like the F-35 is most economically built by farming out parts of its production to 40 states and Puerto Rico? That’s clearly an effort to make funding bulletproof politically.
Fir that matter a lot of defense capability has a basic infrastructure overhead cost that needs to be funded before any real fighting capability at all is realized. The more bloated (and duplicative) the infrastructure, the less bang you get for the buck/euro. And everyone in a coalition wants to feed their own industrial base, fracturing the economies of scale that otherwise might have been realized by common equipment. And then there is the French who count their entire gendarmerie as a military expenditure although they are really just a national police force.
Lots of reasons that many NATO countries - including the US - don’t get much bang for their bucks.
03-07-2022 | 09:05 AM
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Scarcely unique to Russia and the PRC.
https://sgp.fas.org/congress/2004/s111904.html
For that matter, does anyone seriously believe that something like the F-35 is most economically built by farming out parts of its production to 40 states and Puerto Rico? That’s clearly an effort to make funding bulletproof politically.
Fir that matter a lot of defense capability has a basic infrastructure overhead cost that needs to be funded before any real fighting capability at all is realized. The more bloated (and duplicative) the infrastructure, the less bang you get for the buck/euro. And everyone in a coalition wants to feed their own industrial base, fracturing the economies of scale that otherwise might have been realized by common equipment. And then there is the French who count their entire gendarmerie as a military expenditure although they are really just a national police force.
Lots of reasons that many NATO countries - including the US - don’t get much bang for their bucks.
https://sgp.fas.org/congress/2004/s111904.html
For that matter, does anyone seriously believe that something like the F-35 is most economically built by farming out parts of its production to 40 states and Puerto Rico? That’s clearly an effort to make funding bulletproof politically.
Fir that matter a lot of defense capability has a basic infrastructure overhead cost that needs to be funded before any real fighting capability at all is realized. The more bloated (and duplicative) the infrastructure, the less bang you get for the buck/euro. And everyone in a coalition wants to feed their own industrial base, fracturing the economies of scale that otherwise might have been realized by common equipment. And then there is the French who count their entire gendarmerie as a military expenditure although they are really just a national police force.
Lots of reasons that many NATO countries - including the US - don’t get much bang for their bucks.
The US DIC takes it's pound of flesh out of the high-level procurement realm... money gets siphoned off there.
Our operating forces get the gear and training they need, and any bugs in the hardware are offset by technological superiority (at least for now).
Our open society ensures that troops throw the flag if they get shorted... you read about it all the time, and it gets fixed one way or another. Soldiers in autocratic, corrupt regimes don't have the luxury, with predictable results.
Our geographic distribution of defense procurement is a natural consequence of a democratic republic... jobs matter to voters.
03-07-2022 | 09:13 AM
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03-07-2022 | 11:02 AM
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Meanwhile, in Syria and (insert -Stan here) their KSO proved quite adept at getting crap done. Especially in Aleppo, Deir Ez-Zur (exclusive of the PMC incident), and Palmyra, on the ground at least. And much like the U.S in Afghanistan, the SA threat was minimal/low.
As bad as things have gotten there in the last 2 days, it'll be interesting to see if Russia goes "gloves off".
03-07-2022 | 11:54 AM
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More than likely so.
Meanwhile, in Syria and (insert -Stan here) their KSO proved quite adept at getting crap done. Especially in Aleppo, Deir Ez-Zur (exclusive of the PMC incident), and Palmyra, on the ground at least. And much like the U.S in Afghanistan, the SA threat was minimal/low.
As bad as things have gotten there in the last 2 days, it'll be interesting to see if Russia goes "gloves off".
Meanwhile, in Syria and (insert -Stan here) their KSO proved quite adept at getting crap done. Especially in Aleppo, Deir Ez-Zur (exclusive of the PMC incident), and Palmyra, on the ground at least. And much like the U.S in Afghanistan, the SA threat was minimal/low.
As bad as things have gotten there in the last 2 days, it'll be interesting to see if Russia goes "gloves off".
03-07-2022 | 11:55 AM
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